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Trade Confirmed

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#1 · Nov 10, 1:37 PM
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JR44 wrote:

So if we are doing the math we let Cousins go so we could draft our QB of the future -
Used a 1st, 4th and 5th to draft JJM
Then 3 years later used a 3rd to bring Kirk back
So a 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th to end up back in the same place!

Go figure.

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#122 · Nov 10, 3:43 PM CT
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Chuckf wrote:

Go figure.

What makes is all palatable?

Getting the Jets 6th rounder!

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Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#123 · Nov 10, 3:48 PM CT
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It'd be interesting to have plays designed just for the running ability of Kyler Murray, much like the Saints did for Taysom Hill in recent years. A completely new dynamic that opposing defenses would have to prepare for. Use his speed to get to the outside with the threat of a pass.

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#124 · Nov 10, 3:52 PM CT
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purplefaithful wrote:

Lol, u remembered!
And yes, I am...

Just messin' with ya, FWIW getting cousins was the most obvious choice and that they did it only for a 3rd did leave me a bit gobsmacked. Raiders had all the leverage. cousins stats this season are very similar to what they were in 2023 when he popped his Achilles.

Fans love to bitch about his game but he throws a very catchable ball. Let's ride. Gonna be fun.

LFG!!!!

Don't trade JJ.

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#125 · Nov 10, 3:54 PM CT
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Cricket wrote:

https://x.com/vikesinsider/status/2120243429896802450?a=IxbeRSsgOTyFNHgK0tI&s=20

It didn't help the Raiders if you looked at Kirk's statline from last Sunday. 3 picks and a 58 rating. It was his worst game of the year.

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#126 · Nov 10, 3:56 PM CT
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comet52 wrote:

It didn't help the Raiders if you looked at Kirk's statline from last Sunday. 3 picks and a 58 rating. It was his worst game of the year.

Fair point and something that may have been the perfect opportunity for the Vikings waiting until today to get this done.

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#133 · Nov 10, 4:25 PM CT
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Dan Graziano just stated on ESPN that the Vikings third rounder just traded to the Raiders is the Vikings original third, not the third from the Eagles for Greenard.

edited Nov 10, 2026 4:31 PM CT

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#135 · Nov 10, 4:33 PM CT
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Raiders trade QB Cousins to Vikings

Vikings get: QB Kirk Cousins
Raiders get: 2027 third-round pick

Vikings grade: A
Raiders grade: B+

The Vikings were in the unusual position of being Super Bowl contenders that desperately needed a quarterback. And Tuesday was essentially the last day they could get one.

Kyler Murray is both hurt and clearly not a fit in Kevin O'Connell's offense. Murray has struggled this season and currently ranks 27th in QBR (45.7). Carson Wentz was abysmal in relief Monday night against the Bills, consistently failing to throw on target while the all-world Vikings defense somehow kept Josh Allen in check in the loss.

It's hard to overstate the urgency with which the Vikings needed to upgrade at quarterback. They are 6-2 and had a 65% chance to reach the playoffs prior to this trade, according to ESPN's Football Power Index. Minnesota has a Super Bowl-caliber defense, but that defense is fueled by its coach -- defensive coordinator Brian Flores -- rather than superstar players. Which means their Super Bowl window will evaporate into thin air the moment Flores leaves for another job, which could happen as soon as next offseason.

The Vikings were not going to reach the Super Bowl with the offense in had in the first eight games. So, the 38-year-old Cousins was a perfect player to target. He has familiarity and past success in O'Connell's system, and the presence of first overall pick Fernando Mendoza made it logical for the Raiders to deal Cousins before the deadline. And, perhaps most importantly, he's been playing very well!

Cousins ranks 12th in QBR (62.8) this season on a team that has star tight end Brock Bowers but is lacking at wide receiver. Cousins has a 13.5% off-target rate (eighth best), a plus-4.0% completion percentage over expected (sixth best) and a 3.4% sack rate (second best).

The last time Cousins was in Minnesota was in 2023, when he was playing some of the best football of his career before suffering a season-ending Achilles tear. His 64.0 QBR was the seventh best in the league through eight games. His 11% off-target rate that season and plus-4.6% completion percentage over expected ranked first and second in the league, respectively.

Cousins left as a free agent to sign with the Falcons, where he recorded a 48.5 QBR over 24 games spanning two seasons. He then signed as a bridge quarterback with the Raiders. But Cousins played well enough to keep the job until Tuesday's deadline.

His addition changes Minnesota's trajectory and brings it back into the group of viable Super Bowl contenders. For the Vikings to rescue their season in exchange for a third-round pick and a $10 million roster bonus that they will have to pay next season is very easily worth it, especially since their window might be super tight.

Despite posturing that they might hold Cousins, this was always the best move for the Raiders. Had they not dealt Cousins, he likely would have played a couple more games before they turned the keys over to Mendoza. Was keeping that plan worth a third-round pick and $10 million? Surely not.

There's an argument that starting Mendoza's career with games against the Seahawks and Broncos defenses will stunt his development. I don't really buy that, but if the Raiders are concerned they could play Aidan O'Connell for a few weeks and let Mendoza take over after, perhaps following their Week 13 bye. Either way, it made sense for them to get the third-round pick (and save the money).


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#136 · Nov 10, 4:37 PM CT
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JR44 wrote:

So if we are doing the math we let Cousins go so we could draft our QB of the future -
Used a 1st, 4th and 5th to draft JJM
Then 3 years later used a 3rd to bring Kirk back
So a 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th to end up back in the same place!

Not quite a fair assessment. The Vikings didn't want to sign Kirk over 2 years. He signed a ridiculous contract with Atlanta - 4 years $180 million, although its been restructured.

Vikings use draft capital to draft JJM to a rookie deal. They trade him for what should be a higher 5th round draft pick.

The Vikings trade a late 3rd to acquire Kirk for the remainder of 2026 at $650,000. They do have a bonus of $10 million that they can re-structure for 2027 into another years contract. So you are getting a bargain basement QB playing at a top 10 QB level for $650k. Significantly different than the contract he originally signed.

Now the question is can they sign him to a reasonable deal in 2027, and my guess is based on his history, no.

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#137 · Nov 10, 4:48 PM CT
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Kmerry82 wrote:

Not quite a fair assessment. The Vikings didn't want to sign Kirk over 2 years. He signed a ridiculous contract with Atlanta - 4 years $180 million, although its been restructured.
Vikings use draft capital to draft JJM to a rookie deal. They trade him for what should be a higher 5th round draft pick.
The Vikings trade a late 3rd to acquire Kirk for the remainder of 2026 at $650,000. They do have a bonus of $10 million that they can re-structure for 2027 into another years contract. So you are getting a bargain basement QB playing at a top 10 QB level for $650k. Significantly different than the contract he originally signed.
Now the question is can they sign him to a reasonable deal in 2027, and my guess is based on his history, no.

Now that is a fair assessment. Happy Kirk is back. If he wins the SB MVP, he might be hard to sign. But that is a risk we have to take.

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