OT, PSA. Driver facing cameras
This is a public service announcement for anyone buying new vehicles soon. At least till people see this can we keep politics out of it? Then move it to sensitive and have at it.
We’re buying a new car. Teen #2 needs a car so that means my current car is going to the kids.
Some cars (and all for model ‘27) will have a driver facing camera that will determine whether you’re capable of driving by tracking everything about you. Depending on your opinion on privacy. That may or may not be a problem.
The real problem is you can’t wear sunglasses or hold your hand at noon on the steering wheel. Or be to short or to tall or all kinds of exceptions.
If you do any of those the car will warn you and could even stop driving if it feels like it. As of right now you can turn it “off” every time you start the vehicle by going into the settings. Sales person will tell you, you can deactivate it but actually asking people who have them say it’s a pain in the ass and takes up a warning slot on your dash
Just a PSA. If you’re getting a new vehicle sometime soon it’s certainly something you need to be aware of
badgervike wrote:
I don't disagree with the privacy concerns but there is some good there as well. I have two different friends who had life threatening single car crashes late at night in relatively rural areas. Onstar activated emergency protocols for one of my friends whose vehicle slid off the road and hit a tree. Emegency response located the vehicle and literally saved his life as he was unconscious and bleeding out. In the other one, my friend's Iphone detected a crash (once again..late at night in a rural area and down an embankment..and I suspect with alcohol involved). The phone called emergency response and his emergency contacts who likely saved his life.
The key will be to manage legitimate privacy concerns with safety concerns.
Something I don't trust the government to do.
I can see why they can sell the safety features to some. But sorry, not gonna buy something that can decide it won't operate on its own.
1VikesFan wrote:
I'm really sensitive to light and can't imagine having to drive without wearing sunglasses. Seems like hazard to me.
Shouldn't really matter if you have sunglasses on or not. The cameras can see right through the sunglasses unless you have special ones specifically designed for defeating facial recognition cameras.
IceRatz16 wrote:
Yes, I've known about this for a little while now and I thought it was a joke initially when I read/saw it. It amazes me that we've gotten to this point, especially when things like what MB pointed out, statistics may say otherwise. I also will continue buying vehicles before '27 from this point on until they reverse this nonsense.
My question is, will autonomous/self-driving vehicles like Tesla, Rivian, and WayMo have to adopt this as well? I cannot imagine some of these companies are going to want to adapt to those restrictions/requirements.
Tesla and Waymo both come equipped with interior cameras. Tesla to monitor the driver’s alertness, Waymo probably for documenting if you damage their car or make a claim against them. Rivian used to have one to monitor driver’s alertness but it didn’t work for them and they removed it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they added it back in if they get it working.
I don’t think we’ll see fully autonomous cars that you will own. I don’t think they want to deal with the liability issues of who has to pay the damages if a car runs over a kid. Both Elon and Google/Waymo are deeply deep state / surveillance state. Rivian’s a bit of a wildcard to me.
IceRatz16 wrote:
That's your first problem. lol
We have very specific uses for vehicles. This cars whole point was maximum efficiency.
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