Random Thoughts Less Than 2 Weeks Out

I think WR3 is on the table, I just don’t think it’s likely with a first, because I think they’ll plan on resigning Addison, but it’s tough to allocate two expensive WR contracts plus a 1st round draft pick. If you draft a WR in the first, I kind of see that as Addison is out, and now you are in the same spot in a year or two. You saved a little money, but have another starter sized hole in the roster.

I might be completely out in left field, but I really like a lot of the IDL available. I just don’t think they’re the classic 3 Tech body types, but I think there’s a lot of big bodies that can move, which lines up for us.

Was listening to Pat Kirwin on NFL Radio today talk about the Vikings. Thinks out of our top four picks, we have to come away with a RB, DT, S, and anything on top of that is gravy. Said the 3rd round would be the sweet spot for the Vikings to take a safety with one of our two picks as there will be talent there. He thought if we took Thienaman or one of the other safeties in the first round we "won't like" what's left available at defensive tackle if we waited to take one with our second or third round picks.

I think Pat is right on. We can find a quality safety in the 3rd and the defensive line talent dwindles after about pick 45 and there will be a run on defensive lineman

StickierBuns wrote:
Prepare yourself, fans: I think if Jermod McCoy is there at #18, he MIGHT be the selection. Can he break the CB draft jinx for the Vikings? Methinks yes. He's got the ability to neutralize one-on-one big play speedsters at WRer....I think BFlo might make damn good use of that X factor on D. Would be a new dimension defensively IMO. I think a guy like McNeil-Warren will be there in round 2 if they want that safety....but all the way to 49th? Not sure about that, but probably.

JMO, but I think the Vikings let the Draft come to THEM this year.

With the signing of James Pierre, CB isn't a screaming need. But no doubt if McCoy drops to #18, he would be BPA.

StickierBuns wrote:
Prepare yourself, fans: I think if Jermod McCoy is there at #18, he MIGHT be the selection. Can he break the CB draft jinx for the Vikings? Methinks yes. He's got the ability to neutralize one-on-one big play speedsters at WRer....I think BFlo might make damn good use of that X factor on D. Would be a new dimension defensively IMO. I think a guy like McNeil-Warren will be there in round 2 if they want that safety....but all the way to 49th? Not sure about that, but probably.

JMO, but I think the Vikings let the Draft come to THEM this year.

Knucklehead wrote:

With the signing of James Pierre, CB isn't a screaming need. But no doubt if McCoy drops to #18, he would be BPA.

You'd have to run to the podium if somehow McCoy was there at 18, but I highly doubt either him or Delane are there so late. 

Honestly, I dont think CB is a huge need for this team, not with how BFlo deploys the scheme. Maybe in the mid rounds? 

Look what they did last year with literally no rush from the DT's and lesser knowns playing the corners.

StickierBuns wrote:

But its just a LOT easier having better players. If we as fans keep expecting BFlo to continually pull rabbits out of hats, that to me isn't realistic nor an optimal strategy for getting to The Show.

Yah, it sure is...Thats how I feel about our pedestrian RB's too. 

My $ is on DL (Faulk or Woods) unless someone hits the bong and posts pix next Wednesday night. They cant wait till 49 to draft one. If they can trade down to the 20's and pull it off, they'll be even happier.

purplefaithful wrote:

You'd have to run to the podium if somehow McCoy was there at 18, but I highly doubt either him or Delane are there so late. 

Honestly, I dont think CB is a huge need for this team, not with how BFlo deploys the scheme. Maybe in the mid rounds? 

Look what they did last year with literally no rush from the DT's and lesser knowns playing the corners.

still a very good chance that he is trying to make his D work without a future HOF safety.  I dont care who we draft or have waiting in the wings,  you dont just plug and play anybody to fill that role and provide the onfield flexibility and leadership that the Hitman brought to that D and to that DB room.  if he is gone,  we are going to see the difference.

medaille wrote:
I think WR3 is on the table, I just don’t think it’s likely with a first, because I think they’ll plan on resigning Addison, but it’s tough to allocate two expensive WR contracts plus a 1st round draft pick.  If you draft a WR in the first, I kind of see that as Addison is out, and now you are in the same spot in a year or two.  You saved a little money, but have another starter sized hole in the roster.

I might be completely out in left field, but I really like a lot of the IDL available.  I just don’t think they’re the classic 3 Tech body types, but I think there’s a lot of big bodies that can move, which lines up for us.

For as pass happy as KOC is. To make everything click you need talented catchers. 

I’m hopeful Flores gets the 1st rounder though.

In case you missed it, time between picks in the first round went from 10 to 8 minutes. My assumption is it makes for better tv.

Prepare yourself, fans: I think if Jermod McCoy is there at #18, he MIGHT be the selection. Can he break the CB draft jinx for the Vikings? Methinks yes. He's got the ability to neutralize one-on-one big play speedsters at WRer....I think BFlo might make damn good use of that X factor on D. Would be a new dimension defensively IMO. I think a guy like McNeil-Warren will be there in round 2 if they want that safety....but all the way to 49th? Not sure about that, but probably.

JMO, but I think the Vikings let the Draft come to THEM this year.

StickierBuns wrote:

Benji Solak seems to agree....and I'm telling you, McDonald is a riser. I'd love him in Minnesota at DT.

If McCoy's knee checks out, that's kind of a no-brainer pick. I'd like McDonald more if you told me we'd be drafting more of a pass rusher on day two to team with him....or if I knew the team was higher on one of the hyphens than meets the eye.  They seemed to really like LDR, but he played a little better in rotation than when he was asked to start.

Flores has been here for 3 years. That should be long enough to spot trends on what positions he values in the draft. Unfortunately because of the number of prime picks that we've traded away during that period, the sample size is just too small to draw any valid conclusions.

It does appear that he values experienced DBs as additions to the secondary have come thru FA; Byron Murphy, Rogers, Louis Pierre, Stephon Gilmore, Joequan Williams & the trade for Theo Jackson. The highest DB drafted was Mekhi Blackmon in the 3rd round of the 2023 draft. Jay Ward was drafted in the 4th round of that same draft. Kyhree Jackson was drafted in the 4th round of the 2024 draft. He was also 24 years old.

Again small sample size, but I'm not seeing us drafting any DB in the first round next Thursday.

JustInTime wrote:
In case you missed it, time between picks in the first round went from 10 to 8 minutes. My assumption is it makes for better tv.

hogjowlsjohnny wrote:
Yeah, more commercials!

in theory it should cut commercials,  less time between picks is less time for non pick related material,  assuming the coverage wont want to miss any live picks in round 1.... but then again.....

Knucklehead wrote:
Flores has been here for 3 years. That should be long enough to spot trends on what positions he values in the draft. Unfortunately because of the number of prime picks that we've traded away during that period, the sample size is just too small to draw any valid conclusions.

It does appear that he values experienced DBs as additions to the secondary have come thru FA; Byron Murphy, Rogers, Louis Pierre, Stephon Gilmore, Joequan Williams & the trade for Theo Jackson. The highest DB drafted was Mekhi Blackmon in the 3rd round of the 2023 draft. Jay Ward was drafted in the 4th round of that same draft. Kyhree Jackson was drafted in the 4th round of the 2024 draft. He was also 24 years old.

Again small sample size, but I'm not seeing us drafting any DB in the first round next Thursday.

The sample size is small, but there are also a lot of moving parts that blur the picture. We keep hearing that Kwesi wasn't the best at coordinating with the scouting and coaching staff. It's hard to know what players Flores may have wanted but was overruled.

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With the signing of James Pierre, CB isn't a screaming need. But no doubt if McCoy drops to #18, he would be BPA.
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If the Vikings somehow trade down, getting Kayden McDonald and a guy like CB Chris Johnson might rock in first few picks. Lots of ways to go.

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Look what they did last year with literally no rush from the DT's and lesser knowns playing the corners.
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But its just a LOT easier having better players. If we as fans keep expecting BFlo to continually pull rabbits out of hats, that to me isn't realistic nor an optimal strategy for getting to The Show.

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You'd have to run to the podium if somehow McCoy was there at 18, but I highly doubt either him or Delane are there so late. 
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Benji Solak seems to agree....and I'm telling you, McDonald is a riser. I'd love him in Minnesota at DT.

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If McCoy's knee checks out, that's kind of a no-brainer pick. [b]I'd like McDonald more if you told me we'd be drafting more of a pass rusher on day two to team with him[/b]....or if I knew the team was higher on one of the hyphens than meets the eye.  They seemed to really like LDR, but he played a little better in rotation than when he was asked to start.
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Valid. But McDonald is going to make everyone on that line better because he's immovable. And he's got some incremental upside as a rusher and room to improve his technique. Strong tackle-for-loss guy. He can shed with the best of them. JMO, but he's going to eat in the NFL with some elevated coaching.

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in theory it should cut commercials,  less time between picks is less time for non pick related material,  assuming the coverage wont want to miss any live picks in round 1.... but then again.....
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The Draft is unwatchable for me because of the schmaltzy hype and the commercials all telecast long. Follow on my phone and scroll X instead....