So, if it aint Murray and Geno is a Jet ...

IceRatz16 wrote:


This is exactly how I feel.


Kirk would be a far better mentor to McCarthy than any other QB out there, IMO, and Kirk needs to understand that it would be his role first and foremost.


We need to let McCarthy play the entire 2026-2027 season, providing he stays healthy.  It's impartative for his growth and for the long-term assessment of this team's future.  Sitting on the sidelines is not going to help him in any way, IMO.  Keep in mind that if for some reason McCarthy is not the guy long term, the QB class coming into the 2027 draft is projected to be solid.

Sums it up for me ^....except it doesn't have to be Kirk. Just not Murray.

I do agree Murray could make us a top 4 team in NFC...So sure, fan my fan hope I guess.

But as far as signing olde Kirk? He aint coming here to back-up or to mentor.

No way thats where his head is at yet.

MaroonBells wrote:
Geno a Jet...again? Man, you can't even make this up. Just goes to show that when you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dyin' day.

yeah, great way to put it.

MaroonBells wrote:


I don't agree with that. What's more, both Mayfield and Darnold mentioned their years on the bench in LA and SF respectively was the best thing for their growth. Agree that Kirk would be a good option is Kyler falls through.

So both of those guys played at least 4-5 times as many games, if not more, in the NFL before being benched....god knows how many more snaps. This is why JJ needs to play this year, if its a subpar one then bench him in 2027 and make him QB2. He hasn't even played enough snaps to know anything yet nor to be judged on. He's played in 10 games. Mayfield played almost 70 games before being benched. Sam Darnold started almost 40. That's the difference IMO. And all that 'learning' happened with other teams, after the originally drafted teams gave up.

pattersaur wrote:

MB's admirable Vikings optimism is causing some fairly cavernous holes in his takes lately :P @"MaroonBells". 

Deep down MB you gotta know benching the QBOTF after 10 starts in which the team was 6-4 is pretty goofy. For Mahomes or someone sure but... Murray? Cousins? Ugh

It’s not about McCarthy’s wins. Yes, he went 6-4, but did you watch him? He obviously wasn’t ready, and the 6 wins had more to do with our defense than JJ McCarthy. Look, I believe in his future. I just don’t think, based on what I saw, that his future starts as early as 2026. Could it happen? You bet it could. I'm just not willing to bet Justin Jefferson's happiness and a playoff roster on that chance. 

And of course the Mayfield and Darnold situations were different. Nobody said they were the same, only that a year off isn’t necessarily a death sentence. It can actually help QBs.

An optimist? I sure hope so. But in this case it’s more about me trying to get the anti Kyler kids to fully understand what we’re talking about here, because I genuinely don’t think they've really thought this thru.

I’ll repeat myself: A former #1 overall pick, who wasn’t a bust, in fact was an OROY with Pro Bowl nods, is only 28, and gives us more than the “baseline” QB play were were after. And we get THAT guy for no draft comp and a salary lower than Tai Felton’s? And all ya’ll can do is HARUMPH!!?? Are you high? Of course we want that guy!

Remember, people thought I was nuts for thinking Sam Darnold just might be successful in our offense. And before you think I love all our decisions, you might want to look up what I said about Sam Howell.

Right now, my biggest concern is that Kyler might be insulted by at the idea of a “competition.” And if that’s the case, then **** that guy! And the mini pony he rode in on.  ;)

This is for MB! ;) 

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