Kwesi Train

StickierBuns wrote:

....much higher chance, but personally I doubt it. I'm not a fan of Kwesi, at all, but I think some sacrificial lambs would go first in that department.

Simply firing Grigson or some other lackey and calling it a day isn't going to cut it. The backlash in the media and fanbase would be immense

We are also nearing the point where the star player and face of the franchise is so discontent with the organization that there is real talk he might ask to be traded. Thats real talk in the media. When you are at that point, major changes need to be made.

supafreak84 wrote:

Simply firing Grigson or some other lackey and calling it a day isn't going to cut it. The backlash in the media and fanbase would be immense

Depends on who the Wilfs are getting advice from. Is it still Parcells? Miller? Other?

The VAST MAJORITY of fans arent well educated on the team from a GM/Scouting perspective. They have big opinions that stems from an emotional investment they've made. And in the case of us season tix holders? A financial one too - a big one. 

My point being, it wont take much to make "most fans" feel like they made substantial changes...

purplefaithful wrote:

Depends on who the Wilfs are getting advice from. Is it still Parcells? Miller? Other?

The VAST MAJORITY of fans arent well educated on the team from a GM/Scouting perspective. They have big opinions that stems from an emotional investment they've made. And in the case of us season tix holders? A financial one too - a big one. 

My point being, it wont take much to make "most fans" feel like they made substantial changes...

Then those of us who "are educated" know they arent doing anything to fix the actual problem. Firing a lackey who has no real say does nothing in that regard. You have to change the decision makers. I think the Wilfs are starting to feel the heat of this season boiling over and they are being called out in the media for the train wreck that is this football team. You either make front office changes, coaching changes, or both. Don't care about extensions. You eat it like you've eaten 300+ million in bad free agent contracts.

Still Hurtn wrote:
Dont worry Kwesi made this mess, so I'm sure he has a brilliant plan for fixing it... said no one ever.

If Kwesi gets fired he will be fine, I heard Enron is hiring.

Looking back I can understand why Speilman brought in Cousins. If you dont have at least an average QB in this league you are going to struggle as a team.

I am in total agreement.   Keenum folded like a tent in Philly for a chance to go to the Super Bowl.   He was NEVER going to get the Vikings over the hump.   Don't blame Spielman at all for what he did.   The problem was the window was closing on the Vikings defense by 2018.    That Vikings defense peaked in 2015-2016.

This is the kind of stuff being talked about in the media. We are here because of the Wilfs decision to hire a GM with no real experience, who hired a head coach who looks like a fraud, who brought in failures to his coaching staff (McCown), and on and on and on it goes. It's been a domino effect of failure and this is the result four years later. Now the star player is clearly upset and might ask to be traded this offseason. This is going to be a very long next five weeks

purplefaithful wrote:


I'm sure the temp and tempers are hi in Eagan right now...There will be changes for sure, how wide/deep these go is anyones guess.

Sadly, the whole thing really short-circuited by not getting the QB right with a vet, expensive team. Kind of a fans worst nightmare scenario...

I don't think either KOC or KAM are going to lose their jobs. Not sure why some think that will happen. I can't say definitively, of course, but its probably 90% that doesn't happen IMO. They both just signed extensions, lol. KOC was just Coach of the Year. 

I see a lot of disgruntled fans losing their shit, but what else is new?

supafreak84 wrote:


Staying status quo would be the dumbest thing ever

Whether it is or not, who knows? But in less than a year after they BOTH sign extensions you fire them? It won't happen. They'll get a chance to dig out of this hole of a season. I know the pitchfork crowd wants their pound of flesh, but its not happening this offseason, IMO. 

I wonder what happened with Pettine? Didn't make the trip, didn't coach in the game.

Guys....lol. There's no way they are firing KOC. KAM? Probably not, but a MUCH higher chance. The Brad Childress thing was completely different, KOC was COY.

When did fans booing ever really mean anything? Hell, Philly fans were booing their team against Chicago when the game was scoreless....and they just won last year's Superbowl.

Step away from social media, lol. Honestly.

supafreak84 wrote:


Childress was coming off an NFC Championship game appearance where we were one bad Farve INT from going to the Super Bowl. He was signed to an extension and fired when the wheels came off the following year. What has KOC ever won? COY means very little in the grand scheme and certainly not a reason in itself to retain him.  

And the Wilfs throughout their inept history only make changes when the boo birds are out at home. That's why it means something.

KOC isn't going anywhere. Bank it.

supafreak84 wrote:


As long as Kwesi is gone. He's the mistake I told everybody he was four years ago when he was hired. You just don't hire a GM with zero football or scouting experience unless you are simply trying to score DEI points with the commissioner. The fans of this organization deserve better than what the Wilfs have served up over the course of 20+ seasons of inept ownership

....much higher chance, but personally I doubt it. I'm not a fan of Kwesi, at all, but I think some sacrificial lambs would go first in that department.