Ryan Kelly

StickierBuns wrote:
So who's starting at center? Brandel or Jurgens?

Brandel as far as I know. He had his best game of the year against the Chargers, so hopefully he's settling in.

We havent won a game there since the season ender of the 2020 season...So we're due just from the odds lol!

Lions are the best team in the NFL imo.

I'm not predicting anything anymore with these Vikings, but I hope (for themselves and me) they put up a good, competitive showing.

MaroonBells wrote:

Brandel as far as I know. He had his best game of the year against the Chargers, so hopefully he's settling in.

I am glad to see Brandel will be starting, but I think you meant to say Browns and not Chargers.

So this is the closest Viking team to what we had on paper at the beginning of the year. Unfortunately the Lions will be the more rested team coming off the bye week. I'm going to be very interested in how this Viking team responds, being that if we had any ideas of doing anything within the division this year, this is basically a must win game and I think the team knows that. Big test for KOC also

MaroonBells wrote:
The roster the Vikings take to Ford Field on Sunday could be its healthiest of the year. Vikings get back well-known Goff nemesis, Andrew Van Ginkel. And from the sounds of it, both Darrisaw and O’Neill should play, giving the Vikings its healthiest line of the year, with only Ryan Kelly remaining out. And Kelly’s mandatory 4-game absence ends with this game, meaning he can return next week against the Ravens if he’s up to it. The question is…will he?

I have no idea what’s going on with Kelly, and it sounds like nobody else does either. It’s been radio silence from that camp. I think if he were going to retire, he would’ve done that 4 weeks ago. Is there a financial angle to it? Is there a benefit to resting his brain another week, or two, or 4? No clue. But I tend to think he needs to make a decision after the Lions game. Either go on season-ending IR, retire, or get out there and play.

This is great to hear about O'Neill.  It was expected that CD would be playing, but the question will be, is he finally off the "pitch count", because that has to stop.  He either plays the full game or isn't ready and doesn't play at all.

I think I'm most excited about Gink coming back, outside of McCarthy of course.  He is a disrupter, an animal on the field, and just a quiet, blue-collar dude who just makes plays.

We knew that Kelly had a couple concussions this year.  Do we really think this is anything more than protecting himself from another, especially so close together?  I really wish Kelly was healthy and didn't have these concussions, but sadly, like Tua, I think he needs to retire before it's too late.

IceRatz16 wrote:

I am glad to see Brandel will be starting, but I think you meant to say Browns and not Chargers.

Just going by PFF grade, Brandel's worst game of the year was against the Browns, but that was also his first game playing center, and against a very good front seven to boot. His best game so far was last week against the Chargers.

Vikings 13 Lions 38

MaroonBells wrote:

Just going by PFF grade, Brandel's worst game of the year was against the Browns, but that was also his first game playing center, and against a very good front seven to boot. His best game so far was last week against the Chargers.

Weird.  I haven't found a PFF grade for Brandel against the Chargers.  Even still, I couldn't really care less about the PFF grades as I care more about his protection and blocking.  He stand by my statement.  We went against one of the best DLs in the NFL in his first start at C and he performed very well, despite the low PFF grade.

MaroonBells wrote:
The roster the Vikings take to Ford Field on Sunday could be its healthiest of the year. Vikings get back well-known Goff nemesis, Andrew Van Ginkel. And from the sounds of it, both Darrisaw and O’Neill should play, giving the Vikings its healthiest line of the year, with only Ryan Kelly remaining out. And Kelly’s mandatory 4-game absence ends with this game, meaning he can return next week against the Ravens if he’s up to it. The question is…will he?

I have no idea what’s going on with Kelly, and it sounds like nobody else does either. It’s been radio silence from that camp. I think if he were going to retire, he would’ve done that 4 weeks ago. Is there a financial angle to it? Is there a benefit to resting his brain another week, or two, or 4? No clue. But I tend to think he needs to make a decision after the Lions game. Either go on season-ending IR, retire, or get out there and play.

He can just stay on IR as long as he needs to.  He's not forced to come off IR or anything.  I don't think there's any real rush to make a decision, is there?  He does have a 760k roster bonus (which breaks down to 45k a game on a per game basis).  Not really enough to jeopardize his future health over.

IceRatz16 wrote:

Weird.  I haven't found a PFF grade for Brandel against the Chargers.  Even still, I couldn't really care less about the PFF grades as I care more about his protection and blocking.  He stand by my statement.  We went against one of the best DLs in the NFL in his first start at C and he performed very well, despite the low PFF grade.

His grades are not lighting it up:

GAME      PFF GRADE
Chargers (Week 8) 41.0
Eagles (Week 7) 51.1
Browns (Week 5) 41.0

medaille wrote:

He can just stay on IR as long as he needs to.  He's not forced to come off IR or anything.  I don't think there's any real rush to make a decision, is there?  He does have a 760k roster bonus (which breaks down to 45k a game on a per game basis).  Not really enough to jeopardize his future health over.

At some point it transitions to season-ending IR. After the 4 weeks, a 21-day practice window opens. If he's not activated during that time, he goes on season-ending IR. 

I tend to think this is a Kelly-only decision and the team's medical staff is out of it. It's not a pain issue. It's not a mobility issue. It's not even really a time issue. It's a vulnerability issue and there's no predicting that. He could take the year off and then suffer another concussion on his first snap in 2026. He could also start against the Ravens and go another two years without one. 

My only point is that the Vikings probably need a little clarity from Kelly on the matter because it's his decision and his alone.

MaroonBells wrote:

At some point it transitions to season-ending IR. After the 4 weeks, a 21-day practice window opens. If he's not activated during that time, he goes on season-ending IR. 

I tend to think this is a Kelly-only decision and the team's medical staff is out of it. It's not a pain issue. It's not a mobility issue. It's not even really a time issue. It's a vulnerability issue and there's no predicting that. He could take the year off and then suffer another concussion on his first snap in 2026. He could also start against the Ravens and go another two years without one. 

My only point is that the Vikings probably need a little clarity from Kelly on the matter because it's his decision and his alone.

Actually it is a time issue.  The effects of concussions can linger.  Coming back too soon and getting a second concussion when he wasn't healed is why he is on IR.  

I assume he is close to coming back, if not, like you said, he should retire.  

We held one of my boys out his senior year because he ended the year with a concussion, then had a minor accident and smacked his head on the windshield.  He wasn't right for about 6 weeks.  Still has memory issues.

MaroonBells wrote:

At some point it transitions to season-ending IR. After the 4 weeks, a 21-day practice window opens. If he's not activated during that time, he goes on season-ending IR. 

I tend to think this is a Kelly-only decision and the team's medical staff is out of it. It's not a pain issue. It's not a mobility issue. It's not even really a time issue. It's a vulnerability issue and there's no predicting that. He could take the year off and then suffer another concussion on his first snap in 2026. He could also start against the Ravens and go another two years without one. 

My only point is that the Vikings probably need a little clarity from Kelly on the matter because it's his decision and his alone.

I don’t think you have it quite right.

They have to miss at least 4 weeks.  At some point you designate them for return.  Then they have a maximum of 21 days to practice before they must be put on the active roster or placed on season ending IR.

Still Hurtn wrote:
Vikings 13 Lions 38

Kinda leaning that we get smoked as well.  Gives me an excuse to be home at a decent time to watch the game though!!

Heard last night Darrisaw was a DNP yesterday and it wasn't a day of rest, he couldnt/wouldn't go and as such the conversation was about his willingness/desire to get back out there and team maybe needing to make other plans at LT for the future. ( listening to KFan)

JimmyinSD wrote:
Heard last night Darrisaw was a DNP yesterday and it wasn't a day of rest,  he couldnt/wouldn't go and as such the conversation was about his willingness/desire to get back out there and team maybe needing to make other plans at LT for the future.  ( listening to KFan)

I sure hope this isn't the case and it's KFAN being KFAN instead.

JimmyinSD wrote:
Heard last night Darrisaw was a DNP yesterday and it wasn't a day of rest,  he couldnt/wouldn't go and as such the conversation was about his willingness/desire to get back out there and team maybe needing to make other plans at LT for the future.  ( listening to KFan)

That's right. He didn't practice yesterday.

https://www.nfl.com/injuries/

JimmyinSD wrote:
Heard last night Darrisaw was a DNP yesterday and it wasn't a day of rest,  he couldnt/wouldn't go and as such the conversation was about his willingness/desire to get back out there and team maybe needing to make other plans at LT for the future.  ( listening to KFan)

I am starting to think Darrisaw's knee issues are more mental than physical.

I think the Vikings may have to rethink OL plans especially with the issues with Kelly and possibly Darrisaw

1VikesFan wrote:

I am starting to think Darrisaw's knee issues are more mental than physical.

well he has been cleared to play and practice,  it isnt likely an injury issue at this point,  but he wasnt likely working out like he normally would have and is not nearly as physically fit as he was pre injury,  I dont recall which game it was,  but he was look flat ass gassed early in the game.   I am not there so I wont say its all mental,  it may be a comfort and trust thing.

fairness in conversation though,  this morning on KFan they said CD is allowed to sit out Thursdays practices.... so???