Male Cheerleaders?

CFIAvike wrote:
We're talking about cheerleaders here, man.  I wish I was more surprised that there are people who are genuinely pissed this is happening, but this is big 2025 after all.  It takes a certain lack of maturity to throw a fit about this.  Like, we had a gay player at one time.  I mean Prince was a huge fan of the Vikings, is honored by this team, and he wore high heels for fucks sake. Who gives a shit? If this bothers someone that much...go be a fan of another team.  No one is forcing anyone to be a Vikings fan.

When you own your own team, you can run it however you want.  Until then, shut up about things that don't affect the on-the-field product.

Nobody is pissed (at least here), it's just the typical absurd and ridiculous woke agenda of the league and select owners to cram it down our throats non stop, place it front and center, and people are just tired of it. This is just the latest in a long line of examples. Like, when does it end? I guess when it starts hitting their pocket books just like everything else. The Wilfs have done a lot of good things as owners from a football perspective, but pushing their social beliefs on the fanbase that is likely divided on the issue and using the organization as a conduit to spread those social beliefs is stupid and wrong. It would be the equivelant of having pro-life or abortion night at the stadium. Stick to football and leave the politics and other social bullshit at home. That's all we are saying.

Agree on dialing the back the insults, just not necessary.

But lets be clear, not all of us believe that all of "woke" is bad...Thats a dang broad brush to be painting with and not representative of the viewpoints of many in this country.

If you dont believe in some or all of it fine, this country used to find its strength in our differences.

Might be time to move this one over and off the football board.

purplefaithful wrote:
Agree on dialing the back the insults, just not necessary.

But lets be clear, not all of us believe that all of  "woke" is bad...Thats a dang broad brush to be painting with and not representative of the viewpoints of many in this country.

If you dont believe in some or all of it fine, this country used to find its strength in our differences.

Might be time to move this one over and off the football board.

I think that message would have more meaning if the side of diversity would quit labeling those that disagree with them racists and Nazis.  I can't think of much more hateful than painting a Nazi broad brush on anyone that disagrees with you.  You can't even have good genes/jeans these days evidently without causing an uproar.

I'm old enough to remember when we could disagree with each other without the outrage. Those that most strongly support "Diversity" don't actually support diversity.

supafreak84 wrote:

Nobody is pissed (at least here), it's just the typical absurd and ridiculous woke agenda of the league and select owners to cram it down our throats non stop, place it front and center, and people are just tired of it. This is just the latest in a long line of examples. Like, when does it end? I guess when it starts hitting their pocket books just like everything else. The Wilfs have done a lot of good things as owners from a football perspective, but pushing their social beliefs on the fanbase that is likely divided on the issue and using the organization as a conduit to spread those social beliefs is stupid and wrong. It would be the equivelant of having pro-life or abortion night at the stadium. Stick to football and leave the politics and other social bullshit at home. That's all we are saying.

The only people I see making it political, is people like yourself.  It is LITERALLY not a political issue.  It's a male cheerleader.  In a day and age where "woke" is just another term for "I don't like it because it doesn't fit my narrow scope of this world", the Wilfs can do whatever they want with their team.  I'm not an banner waving advocate for anyone, it just simply doesn't bother me.

If the Vikings employing a male cheerleader ruins your enjoyment of the Vikings team as a while, my pity is all yours

badgervike wrote:

I think that message would have more meaning if the side of diversity would quit labeling those that disagree with them racists and Nazis.  I can't think of much more hateful than painting a Nazi broad brush on anyone that disagrees with you.  You can't even have good genes/jeans these days evidently without causing an uproar.

I'm old enough to remember when we could disagree with each other without the outrage.  Those that most strongly support "Diversity" don't actually support diversity.

I dont disagree with this, and i know exactly the types you are talking about too...Good lord, there is so much more that could get accomplished with cooler and calmer heads (on all sides).

CFIAvike wrote:

The only people I see making it political, is people like yourself.  It is LITERALLY not a political issue.  It's a male cheerleader.  In a day and age where "woke" is just another term for "I don't like it because it doesn't fit my narrow scope of this world", the Wilfs can do whatever they want with their team.  I'm not an banner waving advocate for anyone, it just simply doesn't bother me.

If the Vikings employing a male cheerleader ruins your enjoyment of the Vikings team as a while, my pity is all yours

Lol the Wilfs made it political by employing two openly gay male pom pom waving, twerking, cheerleaders as leads in the team cheer squad and put them front and center when it's certainly not the norm and certainly controversial, whether it bothers you individually or not....it's controversial! It doesn't bother or deter from my Fandom or game day enjoyment, but why fucking do it? Why, when you know a majority of your fanbase are heterosexual males who don't want to see it? At the very best it divides the fan base. Why as owners, do they continually use the team as a conduit to push their social beliefs on the fanbase? The Wilfs are Jewish, so how would people feel if they just decided to slap an Isreal flag decal on all team helmets? That's the real talking point here. People are tired of being force fed messages they don't agree with. We just want to be fans and enjoy that experience without being force fed political viewpoints or social causes. Is that too much to ask in today's day and age?

supafreak84 wrote:

Lol the Wilfs made it political by employing two openly gay male pom pom waving, twerking, cheerleaders as leads in the team cheer squad and put them front and center when it's certainly not the norm and certainly controversial, whether it bothers you individually or not....it's controversial! It doesn't bother or deter from my Fandom or game day enjoyment, but why fucking do it? Why, when you know a majority of your fanbase are heterosexual males who don't want to see it? At the very best it divides the fan base. Why as owners, do they continually use the team as a conduit to push their social beliefs on the fanbase? The Wilfs are Jewish, so how would people feel if they just decided to slap an Isreal flag decal on all team helmets? That's the real talking point here. People are tired of being force fed messages they don't agree with. We just want to be fans and enjoy that experience without being force fed political viewpoints or social causes. Is that too much to ask in today's day and age?

So all heterosexual males are bothered by it?  That's news to me....guess I should be upset too.  Also, why does YOUR viewpoint have to be the only one that matters or speaks for the fanbase?  Again dude, it's a male cheerleader.  It's really not that big of a deal.  The Wilfs have chosen to do it because they can.  This has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or politics or anything other than that they employed a guy on the cheerleading squad.  

There's no "force feeding" of anything.  Get a grip.

CFIAvike wrote:

So all heterosexual males are bothered by it?  That's news to me....guess I should be upset too.  Also, why does YOUR viewpoint have to be the only one that matters or speaks for the fanbase?  Again dude, it's a male cheerleader.  It's really not that big of a deal.  The Wilfs have chosen to do it because they can.  This has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or politics or anything other than that they employed a guy on the cheerleading squad.  

There's no "force feeding" of anything.  Get a grip.

Have you read the news, looked on social media, or anything regarding this topic outside of this forum? It's great you don't consider it a big deal or a bother, but there are plenty that do (I'd say a majority) and are tired of the political messaging in sports

Asking people to rein it in. The back and forth and getting personal will end this discussion quickly. It was viking related, but seems to be straying into more personal grounds. I wager most would prefer if it just dies a natural death.

“On the SIDE OF DIVERSITY?” Are there two sides to that??? I guess we should all be the same, think the same, look the same worship the same.SMH
BTW I did a bunch of spots with NFL players and Michelle Beadle asked one of them if there were any gays on his team. He said he didn’t know but if the guy wanted to find someone who shared his orientation he probably wouldn’t have to look further than his own team. And a quote from Mathew Stafford when asked if it would bother him, “if the guy can play, I don’t give a shit.”

supafreak84 wrote:

Have you read the news, looked on social media, or anything regarding this topic outside of this forum? It's great you don't consider it a big deal or a bother, but there are plenty that do (I'd say a majority) and are tired of the political messaging in sports

I've seen conservative media and Social Media (Charlie Kirk, Paul Syzpula, Clay Travis, etc) having a cow, but that's it.  While I recognize that as a viewpoint, it's hardly the entire worldview or even the majority.  However, if that's all you consume for news and social media, I could understand how one would think "the whole country is upset about this".

**edit** Per Greediron, I'm done

supafreak84 wrote:

I would venture to guess if you took a silent poll of the fanbase, an overwhelming majority would elect to not have males dressed in cheerleading gear and pom poms as part of their cheer squad. That's a reasonable assumption considering most football fans are heterosexual males. 
As far as opinions go, the Wilfs served it up as a talking point (like they wanted) so people are going to talk about it. Feel free to not read it if you are offended.

I would venture to guess if you took a silent poll of your silent poll the overwhelming majority would admit to being fans of one or more of pro wrestling, amateur wrestling or MMA. What's more homoerotic than oiled up/sweaty dudes rubbing up on one another? While "totally straight real men" cheer them on.

Answer, hairless oiled up/sweaty dudes rubbing up on one another while wearing what amounts to panties. While "totally straight real men" cheer them on. Don't get me started on adult men who enjoy watching youth amateur wrestling. 

Let's talk about "totally straight real men" who cosplay as their favorite sportsballer. How gay is it to walk around wearing another man's name on your back? Might as well get a tramp stamp with a players number! If not gay, it's for sure serious cuck vibes. Which if that's your thing cool. 

Fans being a cuck for their football daddies impacts me as much as male cheerleaders impacts you. But be serious, men wearing other men's jerseys is just a step above holding your prison daddy pockets so the yard knows who you belong to.

CFIAvike wrote:

I've seen conservative media and Social Media (Charlie Kirk, Paul Syzpula, Clay Travis, etc) having a cow, but that's it.  While I recognize that as a viewpoint, it's hardly the entire worldview or even the majority.  However, if that's all you consume for news and social media, I could understand how one would think "the whole country is upset about this".

**edit** Per Greediron, I'm done

We are talking about football here though and football fans, which are predominately straight males and it's safe to assume a majority of that crowd doesn't want what the Wilfs are serving up. It's certainly not the entire world's viewpoint, but it's a viewpoint (I'd wager the majority) that makes up a substantial amount of fans. Again, see the Bud Light debacle they are still trying to buy their way out of. As a business owner, to simply bypass the likely majority viewpoint and add an unnecessary distraction heading into the season that doesn't need to be there all in the name of ownerships social agenda...just isn't smart.

Caactorvike wrote:
“On the SIDE OF DIVERSITY?” Are there two sides to that???  I guess we should all be the same, think the same, look the same worship the same.SMH BTW I did a bunch of spots with NFL players and Michelle Beadle asked one of them if there were any gays on his team. He said he didn’t know but if the guy wanted to find someone who shared his orientation he probably wouldn’t have to look further than his own team. And a quote from Mathew Stafford when asked if it would bother him, “if the guy can play, I don’t give a shit.”

Was that directed my way CAActor because I was the only one that brought up Diversity?  I didn't think what I said was all that controversial.  Diversity by definition relates to difference, separateness, variety.  The Left has co-opted the word to mean something different.  To be truly diverse, you have to be willing to embrace all values and viewpoints...not just the ones that agree with you.  I chuckle when I hear an impassioned defense of Diversity while simultaneously attacking those those that disagree..you know...those that represent a diverse viewpoint.  It's also amusing to me to listen to your LA Mayor talk about the illegal immigrants as adding to the diversity of the City.  Last I checked, the Hispanics represented just under half the City population with Caucasians down around 25%.  Adding more Hispanics to a Hispanic majority doesn't make LA more "diverse".  Somebody missed math class....

By the way...why would anyone think its anybody's business to ask whether there were gays on the team?  That seems a bit intrusive.

90% of the diversity movement is people looking out for their own or virtue signaling. It’s anything but diverse. Lol

Thread is now closed. (I think)