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Crossed to the dark side - Green & Gold review

Montana Tom
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Don't shoot me...but I watched the movie Green and Gold with the trophy wife last night.  
Didn't know what to expect.

Good cast, some familiar names...
Craig T Nelson (from Coach...Minnesota State LOL)
M. Emmett Walsh (filmed just before he passed away at age 90)
Charlie Berens (one of my favorite comedians)
Brandon Sklenar (from Taylor Sheridan's 1923/Yellowstone pre-quel)

I was holding my breath that it was going to be about the Packers.
Well, honestly, the Packers in the 1980s were a backdrop, but that really wasn't the story.  I won't give it away, but I will tell you, particularly after having lived for ten years in Northern Wisconsin/Michigan's UP during that time frame, I understood the passion.  It's no difference than the passion that we have for our Vikings.

It was about hard times farming. About dealing with loss...family, the farm.  Those were tough times for family farms.  It was about aspirations and disillusionment, and doing the right thing.
The movie was about people.  About chasing your dream.
The dairy farmer had a cow named Max McGee that gave birth.  And other cows named Jerry Kraemer, Bart Starr and other Packer notables.  
You learn to hate the banker.
You see how people rally to support their neighbors.
A little bit like Field of Dreams, but far more real.  Goosebumps ending.

I gotta say, I recommend it.   You can still hate the Packers, but you'll get it.

#1 · Jul 10, 5:42 AM
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Never would've thought to watch this, like AT ALL. But your description may have changed my mind. I come from a family of farmers so it sounds interesting to me. But, y'know, **** the Packers.

#2 · Jul 10, 7:02 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
Never would've thought to watch this, like AT ALL. But your description may have changed my mind. I come from a family of farmers so it sounds interesting to me. But, y'know, **** the Packers.

The dairy farming / connection with the land will resonate with you then, I suspect.  

Oh I just remembered another part...the dairy farmer has a pig he named Mike Ditka LOL.  The Bears were referenced more than any other team, but still not much.  Nothing about us or Detroit.

Have you ever seen any of Charlie Berens vignettes on Facebook?  He is fabulous for mocking Wisconsinites.  He always closes his pieces out with "...and F*** the Bears".   His real story is actually quite interesting.  Comedy is about irony and he stumbled into a niche after he quit his gig as a news reporter in LA, and he moved back home to Wisconsin.  His shows sell out.  Small radio voice part (I recognize his voice) and he plays the radio host for a very poignant scene toward the end.

#3 · Jul 10, 7:29 AM
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Montana Tom wrote:

The dairy farming / connection with the land will resonate with you then, I suspect.  

Oh I just remembered another part...the dairy farmer has a pig he named Mike Ditka LOL.  The Bears were referenced more than any other team, but still not much.  Nothing about us or Detroit.

Have you ever seen any of Charlie Berens vignettes on Facebook?  He is fabulous for mocking Wisconsinites.  He always closes his pieces out with "...and F*** the Bears".   His real story is actually quite interesting.  Comedy is about irony and he stumbled into a niche after he quit his gig as a news reporter in LA, and he moved back home to Wisconsin.  His shows sell out.  Small radio voice part (I recognize his voice) and he plays the radio host for a very poignant scene toward the end.

Never heard of him, but just watched a couple bits. Funny guy! Never spent any time in the upper midwest, but I've known and worked with so many people from there I've learned to distinguish between the Minn, Wisc and Mich accents. Dialects are fascinating to me.

#4 · Jul 11, 3:31 AM
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I used to not know we had accents in MN...

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#5 · Jul 11, 5:31 AM
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purplefaithful wrote:
I used to not know we had accents in MN...

dontcha know its a casserole not a hot dish!

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#6 · Jul 11, 9:04 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
Never would've thought to watch this, like AT ALL. But your description may have changed my mind. I come from a family of farmers so it sounds interesting to me. But, y'know, **** the Packers.

Same.  Might be tough to explain to my wife and kids tho.

#7 · Jul 11, 10:34 AM
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purplefaithful wrote:
I used to not know we had accents in MN...

LOL  Living in Arizona, it's been pointed out to me so many times over the years that I had an accent.  I'm like, "Accent, what accent?"  People tell me I'm from the midwest just by the way I speak.

#8 · Jul 11, 10:55 AM
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I was told decades ago that many radio & TV personalities originated from Minnesota because we were thought to have the "cleanest/non-dialect" in the whole country. Later in life, I found out what a bunch of horse puckey that was. Yes, Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and Lower Michigan...all have some semblence of an accent. I think the more rural they are, the more pronounced the dialect.

#9 · Jul 11, 11:26 AM
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JimmyinSD wrote:

dontcha know its a casserole not a hot dish!

Yup, my home-made tuna noodle is a casserole.

ArizonaViking wrote:

LOL  Living in Arizona, it's been pointed out to me so many times over the years that I had an accent.  I'm like, "Accent, what accent?"  People tell me I'm from the midwest just by the way I speak.

It was Grumpy Old Men and some of the True Detective movies dialect that opened my eyes lol.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#10 · Jul 11, 12:03 PM
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Montana Tom wrote:
I was told decades ago that many radio & TV personalities originated from Minnesota because we were thought to have the "cleanest/non-dialect" in the whole country.  Later in life, I found out what a bunch of horse puckey that was.  Yes, Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Upper Michigan and Lower Michigan...all have some semblence of an accent.  I think the more rural they are, the more pronounced the dialect.

Wow, horse puckey is right. I think the people with the cleanest dialect, the voice targeted by media, (it's called GenAm), is in the western states. 

The accents in Minn, Wisc and Mich are immediately identifiable to me. Add Chicago to that as well. It's funny though. It's not an Illinois accent as much as it is a distinct Chicago accent. Illinois is a LONG, vertical state. People down in Carbondale actually start to get a bit of a drawl. 

I studied linguistics in college and we had a visiting professor come in one day who had a kind of parlor trick. He gave each student a couple sentences to read, and with that he could identify precisely where each was from. But it went even deeper. Things like "you live in east Texas now but you're from the Boston area, or at least your parents are." It was uncanny how accurate he was.

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