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JustInTime
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Eliminate another preseason game, add another bye week and maybe expand the game day roster.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#1 · Mar 29, 1:40 PM
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And Hopefully start the season a week earlier.

#2 · Mar 29, 6:31 PM
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1. Give each team 2 bye weeks.

2. And For Thursday night games both teams are to be coming off of their respective bye.

#3 · Mar 29, 8:59 PM
JustInTime
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Increase vet minimums 
Cut vesting period 
Increase retirement benefits 

And the owners will still make out like bandits because the NFL union is probably the weakest of all major sports.

But player safety is paramount

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#4 · Mar 29, 10:59 PM
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StickierBuns wrote:

I wish they'd do this. And the fact that some NFL stadiums are still open air only is ridiculous. If you're in California, fine. If its January and you're in Green Bay, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Buffalo, etc. give me a f-ing break. When the doors are open at U.S. Bank stadium and the sun is out, I defy you to tell me it doesn't feel like outdoor football with that clear roof. Its amazing.

It doesnt feel like outdoor football, sorry.  It feels like a greenhouse.

The weather is no more of a factor in the north late than the south early in the year.  The extremes should be tempered both ways IMO.  No more games in stupid hot on filed temps either IMO.

They have created all kinds of protections on practice in high heat,  same should be done for the games as well.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#5 · Mar 30, 1:42 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

I wish they'd do this. And the fact that some NFL stadiums are still open air only is ridiculous. If you're in California, fine. If its January and you're in Green Bay, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Buffalo, etc. give me a f-ing break. When the doors are open at U.S. Bank stadium and the sun is out, I defy you to tell me it doesn't feel like outdoor football with that clear roof. Its amazing.

Those cities just pre planned for global warming. 75 and sunny in December.

#6 · Mar 30, 2:12 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

I wish they'd do this. And the fact that some NFL stadiums are still open air only is ridiculous. If you're in California, fine. If its January and you're in Green Bay, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Buffalo, etc. give me a f-ing break. When the doors are open at U.S. Bank stadium and the sun is out, I defy you to tell me it doesn't feel like outdoor football with that clear roof. Its amazing.

I’m not coming up in the Fall, buying club level tickets to be possibly rained on. I sat through enough HS and college games for my sons in shit weather. There’s a reason the Bank is considered one of the best venues in the NFL. Perfect football experience.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#7 · Mar 30, 2:23 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

100% agreed.

I’ve sat in Lambeau in January on a metal freaking bench. You can dress for it, sure, but I can also use an outhouse too if forced.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#8 · Mar 30, 2:32 AM
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StickierBuns wrote:

Its bullshit. I lived an hour + north of Green Bay and attended probably 7-8 games there at Lambeau when I was much younger. Metal bench seating with no backs, horrible. If 6 people in your row were typical cheesehead diets types, your seat may have been 17 but you'd be forced to sit in seat 19 because of the width of some. Packed in like sardines with people right on you.

Exactly. Probably been there a half dozen times and never actually sat in my “seat”.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#9 · Mar 30, 3:05 AM
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JustInTime wrote:
https://x.com/yahoosports/status/1905772124230545619?s=46&t=TjjB9Q4BmOwmN74RrrMjoQ

Eliminate another preseason game, add another bye week and maybe expand the game day roster.

I've been a proponent of this ever since we went to 17 games. 
Preseason games are not a good product, we all know they are just a scrimmage to look at potential late roster additions.
I would add more time to training camps, or more OTAs.  

In my world I look at markets and the ability to sell a product to a market.
There is a constrained supply of NFL football (17 games are now considered "constrained")
Consumers (NFL fans) are not happy with the pre-season game product, even as teams require tickets in their season pass packages).  They want a real product.

So the market demands it.  The product could be available.
With deeper rosters, more individuals can be employed (players).

It only makes sense.

#10 · Mar 30, 4:29 AM
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18 games was always a matter of when and not if.

Lambo is a step above the olde met - and that was a turd of a stadium for football.

Im for the 18 games, but I think rosters will have to expand some, 2 bye weeks, one less PS game.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#11 · Mar 30, 4:40 AM
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It's gotta go to 18 games, if for no other reason than it's divisible by two. Drives my sense of order crazy that it's impossible for a team to go .500. 

I don't like the two bye weeks idea, but if that's what it takes, so be it. But it would almost require putting NFL games back on Labor Day weekend. Can you imagine NFL opening day on a 3-day weekend? That would be a beautiful thing.

#12 · Mar 30, 4:50 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
It's gotta go to 18 games, if for no other reason than it's divisible by two. Drives my sense of order crazy that it's impossible for a team to go .500. 

I don't like the two bye weeks idea, but if that's what it takes, so be it. But it would almost require putting NFL games back on Labor Day weekend. Can you imagine NFL opening day on a 3-day weekend? That would be a beautiful thing.

IIRC the last time this started to be discussed the two bye weeks was a sticking point. Definitely need to start Labor Day to make it work unless they would change the Super Bowl schedule.

edited Mar 30, 2025 6:26 AM

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#13 · Mar 30, 6:25 AM
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Avg gross revenue per game is significant.
$100 avg ticket x 70,000 seats = $7 mm in ticket sales
Avg $22 million/game in TV ad revenue.
Plus streaming services, concessions revenue and other miscellany.
Understand I said GROSS revenue.
There are costs/expenses associated with each of these top line revenue items.

The Dallas Cowboys topped all other teams in avg revenue/game in recent years (despite the fact that DREW PEARSON PUSHED OFF!) by a large margin.

#14 · Mar 30, 6:38 AM
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Montana Tom wrote:
Avg gross revenue per game is significant. $100 avg ticket x 70,000 seats = $7 mm in ticket sales Avg $22 million/game in TV ad revenue. Plus streaming services, concessions revenue and other miscellany. Understand I said GROSS revenue.  There are costs/expenses associated with each of these top line revenue items.

The Dallas Cowboys topped all other teams in avg revenue/game in recent years (despite the fact that DREW PEARSON PUSHED OFF!) by a large margin.

And the TV revenue keeps increasing rapidly. Netflix is going to throw down serious money for Christmas games again. Cap will approach half a billion by the time JJ gets a new deal.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#15 · Mar 30, 6:44 AM
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JustInTime wrote:

And the TV revenue keeps increasing rapidly. Netflix is going to throw down serious money for Christmas games again. Cap will approach half a billion by the time JJ gets a new deal.

I thought I heard where Netflix was going to make a "big play" to usurp one of the major broadcast networks and not just a token xmas game...

Either way, owners will benefit. 

Vikings value today is north of $5b, they bought it for $600m.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#16 · Mar 30, 9:16 AM
JustInTime
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purplefaithful wrote:

I thought I heard where Netflix was going to make a "big play" to usurp one of the major broadcast networks and not just a token xmas game...

Either way, owners will benefit. 

Vikings value today is north of $5b, they bought it for $600m.

I vaguely remember that too. Just crazy.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

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