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JustInTime
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Oh sweet Jesus. God made a 6-5 Cordarrelle Patterson. He’s got a bad drop rate, but I’d go up Day 3 and get this guy. First WR I looked at this year. 

Lawd, lawd, lawd. Bring him home, Kwesi. 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/savion-williams-2.html

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#1 · Feb 22, 12:41 AM
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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#2 · Feb 22, 6:51 AM
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I haven't watched any receivers this year, but oh my. You can typically get a feel for a guy's rough size and speed based on how he runs. But this kid's listed size and what his feet are doing on my screen do not sync up. My first thought was that there's no way he's 6-5, 225. But that checks out. Built like Megatron, moves like a waterbug back.

#3 · Feb 23, 12:43 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
I haven't watched any receivers this year, but oh my. You can typically get a feel for a guy's rough size and speed based on how he runs. But this kid's listed size and what his feet are doing on my screen do not sync up. My first thought was that there's no way he's 6-5, 225. But that checks out. Built like Megatron, moves like a waterbug back.

Me either. Might be time to.

He’s Good Value Tyler Warren.

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
Williams enters the NFL draft as a developmental prospect with intriguing physical tools but a need for refinement in several areas. His combination of size and straight-line speed presents an appealing package for teams looking for a potential X-receiver. However, his current skill set suggests he's more of a project than an immediate impact player.

On tape, Williams flashes the ability to be a threat in the vertical passing game and shows promise in contested catch situations. His steady improvement throughout his college career is encouraging, but his overall production and current technical skills don't quite match his athletic potential. Teams will need to weigh his upside against his present limitations in route diversity and consistency.

While not projected as a day-one starter, Williams has the physical attributes to develop into a valuable outside receiver with time and coaching. His draft position will likely reflect the balance between his raw potential and his current level of polish. Teams with strong receiver development programs and offenses that emphasize downfield passing may view Williams as an attractive mid-to-late-round selection with upside to outperform his draft slot.

edited Feb 23, 2025 1:52 AM

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#4 · Feb 23, 1:15 AM
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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#5 · Feb 27, 2:40 AM
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edited Feb 27, 2025 6:52 AM

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#6 · Feb 27, 6:52 AM
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Was hoping to see him do both RB and WR drills and got neither. Ran a 4.48 with a 1.52 and then…nada. No word either.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#7 · Mar 1, 10:34 PM
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JustInTime wrote:
Was hoping to see him do both RB and WR drills and got neither. Ran a 4.48 with a 1.52 and then…nada. No word either.

A 4.48?  That’s it?

#8 · Mar 2, 7:55 AM
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AGRforever wrote:

A 4.48?  That’s it?

That’s pretty good at 6-4 and 220+lbs.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#9 · Mar 2, 8:49 AM
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JustInTime wrote:

Me either. Might be time to.

He’s Good Value Tyler Warren.

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY
Williams enters the NFL draft as a developmental prospect with intriguing physical tools but a need for refinement in several areas. His combination of size and straight-line speed presents an appealing package for teams looking for a potential X-receiver. However, his current skill set suggests he's more of a project than an immediate impact player.

On tape, Williams flashes the ability to be a threat in the vertical passing game and shows promise in contested catch situations. His steady improvement throughout his college career is encouraging, but his overall production and current technical skills don't quite match his athletic potential. Teams will need to weigh his upside against his present limitations in route diversity and consistency.

While not projected as a day-one starter, Williams has the physical attributes to develop into a valuable outside receiver with time and coaching. His draft position will likely reflect the balance between his raw potential and his current level of polish. Teams with strong receiver development programs and offenses that emphasize downfield passing may view Williams as an attractive mid-to-late-round selection with upside to outperform his draft slot.

Megatron body, Tyreek Hill's feet and Troy Williamson's hands.

#10 · Mar 3, 7:16 AM
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greediron wrote:

Megatron body, Tyreek Hill's feet and Troy Williamson's hands.

What’s maddening is he has good ball skills. That first catch on his reel he pulls in a ball low and behind him. He can pluck it. 10”+ hands. I’m blaming concentration.

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#11 · Mar 3, 7:53 AM
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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#12 · Mar 14, 11:04 AM
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Can you teach hands?

Here's the full scouting report. 8 drops out of 60 receptions in 2024 season.
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HEIGHT: 6'5
WEIGHT: 225

POSITIVES

— Outstanding height, weight, and speed athlete at the wide receiver position.
— Explosive burst as a run-after-catch threat.
— Good play strength and physicality as a route runner.
— Developmental upside with high-end physical traits.

NEGATIVES

— Lacks natural hands, double clutches catches. Charged with eight drops in 2024.
— Gadget usage limited wide receiver development; unrefined route runner.
— Body-catcher who prefers to trap the football to his frame rather than pluck it with his hands.

NOTES

— 4-star recruit in 2020 class, per 247Sports
— 2024: Honorable-Mention All-Big 12
— 2023: Honorable-Mention All-Big 12

OVERALL

Savion Williams is the perfect boom-or-bust wide receiver for teams to buy into.

Williams is an explosive height, weight, and speed prospect at the receiver position. He is an excellent athlete who made Bruce Feldman's "Freak List." He has the speed and explosiveness to be a reliable and consistent big-play generator.

Williams is a great run-after-catch threat in the open field. That great explosiveness and long speed make him a threat to take it the distance at any given moment. Williams' agility is impressive for a player of his stature—he can weave in and out of traffic for YAC. He makes defenders miss in space and deploys a quick spin move in tight quarters. TCU converted him into a "wide back" offensive weapon like San Francisco 49ers Deebo Samuel. Williams is a playmaker in space with manufactured/gadget touches.

His route running is physical, with good suddenness and snap at the top of the route. Williams uses his hands well to fight through contact from the defender. He is a menace on in-breaking routes—slants, digs, etc. Due to his strength and size, it is difficult to stop him from crossing face to win inside leverage. Williams has good foot quickness to shake and bake defenders in one-on-one coverage.

With the ball in flight, Williams attacks it at its highest point. He is a strong leaper and uses his entire frame and wingspan to win the ball at the catch point. He has good body control when elevating over defenders to battle for the football. Williams plays like a power forward on the hardwood and boxes smaller defenders out for position to the football.

The bust aspect of Williams's profile starts with drops. Talent is there, but he does not have natural hands. Even on impressive high-point passes, he double-catches the ball and prefers to trap it to his frame. Williams' gadget usage this season limited his development at wide receiver. Yes, he showcased valuable alignment versatility, but the fundamentals of playing wide receiver were not nurtured. This leads to questions regarding his actual position heading into the draft.

Overall, Savion Williams projects as WR3/4 with developmental tools and positional versatility. The combination of strength, speed, and agility with the ball in his hands can be dangerous. There's plenty of upside at the wide receiver position, but the landing spot will be paramount for him to reach his ceiling.

#13 · Mar 14, 2:22 PM
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Watch some of his catches. His hands aren’t bad. I think it’s concentration.

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Shakespeare 

#14 · Mar 14, 3:13 PM
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2:40 mark. Watch this and tell me he has bad hands.

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#15 · Mar 17, 3:01 AM
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Get your grubby mitts off my boy.

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Shakespeare 

#16 · Mar 17, 9:12 AM
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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#17 · Mar 19, 8:09 AM
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Wobby raving about your boy, @"JustInTime" ...

#18 · Apr 16, 4:29 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
Wobby raving about your boy, @"JustInTime" ...

Wobby is in good company  :cool:

Recently watched every snap from 24. 3 bad drops. Way more good catches. Patterson run style but the comp ends there and ends abruptly. Savion is an absolute bully at the catch point. Patterson was quite meek. Definitely would bring a completely new skillset to the WR room. 

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#19 · Apr 16, 4:56 AM
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Even if it is concentration drops, the only WR I can remember in recent memory who overcame a concerning amount of drops was Davante Adams. Lots of guys don't improve on it in the pros. Look at Quentin Johnston for a recent example. Another big athletic guy and he had what... 4 drops in the Chargers playoff game?

Exciting playmaker, but I'm out if it costs a first or early second round pick to get him.

#20 · Apr 17, 5:56 AM
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MAD GAINZ wrote:
Even if it is concentration drops, the only WR I can remember in recent memory who overcame a concerning amount of drops was Davante Adams.  Lots of guys don't improve on it in the pros.  Look at Quentin Johnston for a recent example.  Another big athletic guy and he had what...  4 drops in the Chargers playoff game?

Exciting playmaker, but I'm out if it costs a first or early second round pick to get him.

Late Day 2 early Day 3. Again, I watched every snap last year and I counted 3 drops. I have no idea how they came up with 10%.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#21 · Apr 17, 6:03 AM
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