Darnold is currency. Use it.
On March 17th, 2021, a year after drafting Jalen Hurts, the Eagles traded Carson Wentz and won a Super Bowl with the return. I know he's not under contract, but we've got to find a way to get something for Sam Darnold. Extension, tag and trade, whatever it takes. We have our QBOTF. Build McCarthy's surround with the currency you built by rebuilding Sam Darnold. It can be done, but it will take some brass. Somehow I don't think we will.
Wentz was traded for two 3rds; Watson was traded for three 1’s, one 3, two 4’s; Wilson was traded for two 1’s, two 2’s, 3 players; Rodgers was traded for two 2’s. NONE of those players had the kind of year Sam did. What's more, Wentz was horrible (16 TDs, 15 INTs), Watson was facing serious legal issues, Wilson was 34 and Rodgers was 40! Sam won 14 games, made the Pro Bowl and is 27 years old.
Have you seen this draft class?
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$40 million for Darnold
$60 million for Dak
$55 million for Love
Who you picking?
No doubt, we've had those discussions recently on just what you say here and its valid. I do think someone will pay Darnold. I just think he's a LOT more attractive with financial compensation only and not comp because Uncle Sammy shit the bed the last 2 games in epic fashion. And his history before last year was pretty bad. I don't think he's 'fixed'.
The Jets have contacted the Titans to discuss the #1 pick in the NFL Draft to get Cam Ward.
Potential Trade Package:
Jets’ first-round pick (2025), second-round pick (2025), a first-round pick (2026), a second-round pick (2026) and another second-round pick (2027).
But we can’t get a Day 2 2025 pick for Darnold?
Really?
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”
Shakespeare
I think the price would have had to have gone up. Part of the value for Darnold was that he was going to be able to turn this gig into a bigger FA deal. Like I guess that it would have been something more like 2 years, $40M or something. Like you would have to pay him more like a guy you are committing to for a longer period of time.
Neither side wanted it and rightfully so: Vikings weren't planning on committing and if Darnold hit it, he wanted to be a FA and get the bag. Its not about foresight, it worked for both parties.
StickierBuns wrote:
First off, I don't believe that is happening as we are in the Stupid Season for NFL news right now. Secondly, you can't stop stupid with the NY Jets if somehow this is true as Cam Ward should have 'bust' stamped on his forehead. I don't believe for a second any team is doing any contacting at all of other for Draft movement on February 20th....its too early. We are going to read some dumb stuff like this, as we do every year, and 95% is untrue.
I would love to get some comp for Darnold of course. We need picks. I just don't see it happening.
Well, damn it, visualize it happening!
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”
Shakespeare
StickierBuns wrote:
lol, I know it.....god the team needs freaking draft picks.
I’m 100% certain we’ll accumulate more picks. Guarantee it.
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”
Shakespeare
I was all-in on the, "We have to get something for Sam plan, no matter what" for most of the year. Was leading the train at times probably. But after the last two games... Guys we witnessed an historic bed-crapping. I think desperate teams will do desperate things, and Sam was legitimately great last year, but if KAM can't find a return I'll be a lot more understanding than I would have before Week 18.
If there was ever a handshake agreement with Darnold to pay him a bunch of $, rehab his value, then pat him on the butt and let him walk-- when we signed him waaaay late in FA after basically any QB worth a hoot found a home and he was lucky to land here-- then fire everyone.
pattersaur wrote:
I was all-in on the, "We have to get something for Sam plan, no matter what" for most of the year. Was leading the train at times probably. But after the last two games... Guys we witnessed an historic bed-crapping. I think desperate teams will do desperate things, and Sam was legitimately great last year, but if KAM can't find a return I'll be a lot more understanding than I would have before Week 18.If there was ever a handshake agreement with Darnold to pay him a bunch of $, rehab his value, then pat him on the butt and let him walk-- when we signed him waaaay late in FA after basically any QB worth a hoot found a home and he was lucky to land here-- then fire everyone.
Those last two games hurt the Vikings in so many ways.
MaroonBells wrote:
Those last two games hurt the Vikings in so many ways.
It certainly didnt help their cause....
It's also common sense time.
There's a 27 year old Pro Bowl QB about to hit the FA mkt in a rich league very much in need of QB's.
All it takes is two teams interested and the mkt takes off. I would bet some serious coin 2 franchises will be interested enough to make some substantial offers.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
The Jets have contacted the Titans to discuss the #1 pick in the NFL Draft to get Cam Ward.
Potential Trade Package:
Jets’ first-round pick (2025), second-round pick (2025), a first-round pick (2026), a second-round pick (2026) and another second-round pick (2027).
But we can’t get a Day 2 2025 pick for Darnold?
Really?
First off, I don't believe that is happening as we are in the Stupid Season for NFL news right now. Secondly, you can't stop stupid with the NY Jets if somehow this is true as Cam Ward should have 'bust' stamped on his forehead. I don't believe for a second any team is doing any contacting at all of other for Draft movement on February 20th....its too early. We are going to read some dumb stuff like this, as we do every year, and 95% is untrue.
I would love to get some comp for Darnold of course. We need picks. I just don't see it happening.
Well, damn it, visualize it happening!
lol, I know it.....god the team needs freaking draft picks.
purplefaithful wrote:
It certainly didnt help their cause....
It's also common sense time.
There's a 27 year old Pro Bowl QB about to hit the FA mkt in a rich league very much in need of QB's.
All it takes is two teams interested and the mkt takes off. I would bet some serious coin 2 franchises will be interested enough to make some substantial offers.
But will the Vikings even apply the tag? I sure hope so but I have my doubts. And does that tag price go up now that the salary cap has been increased by $25M?
The tag window is open as of a couple of days ago and the 2025 values are set:
Non-exclusive QB is $41,325,000
Transition is $35,267,000
There is also an exclusive tag but the value can't be calculated until restricted free agency ends. Then it's the average of the top 5 QBs, who right now all make over 50 mil.
What's crazy is those guys are Prescott, Burrow, Love, Lawrence, and Tua. I wouldn't pay that kinda money for any of them other than Burrow.
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