Lions @ Vikings

MaroonBells wrote:
This game wasn't just close in terms of the final score. It was close in every other way too...I don't know that I've ever seen a box score like this...

Vikings and lions went to war today, this is the most even box score I’ve ever seen pic.twitter.com/N85LfsBaUx

— Rich (@RJS676) October 20, 2024

Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.

purplefaithful wrote:

Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.

Cllick on the tweet. It shows the whole breakdown and it's remarkably close across the board. Both teams were 4/10 on 3rd down conversions.

MaroonBells wrote:

Cllick on the tweet. It shows the whole breakdown and it's remarkably close across the board. Both teams were 4/10 on 3rd down conversions.

I hear you, but this game felt Kirk Cousin'esque from Sam. 

Gaudy stats, but the score-board is what matters of course. He missed some key throws, held the ball too long at times and struggles with man coverages. 

Earlier in this thread I quoted some EPA/Play and Total EPA stats and there is some telling gaps between Sam and Goff.

The D contributed to this loss as well, Johnson has pretty much owned Flores the last 4 games they coached each other. In spite of that, we had our chances to win. That's where I get a whiff of Alex Smith/Cousins.

You can pick one of a dozen plays that would have changed the outcome. Two that I won't soon forget is the fumbles by Goff. One he falls to the ground and he just happens to fall on the ball, what are the chances?

purplefaithful wrote:

Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.

The failed two point conversion on our final TD was a major missed play. We needed a better pass from Sam at that spot.

purplefaithful wrote:

I hear you, but this game felt Kirk Cousin'esque from Sam. 

Gaudy stats, but the score-board is what matters of course. He missed some key throws, held the ball too long at times and struggles with man coverages. 

Earlier in this thread I quoted some EPA/Play and Total EPA stats and there is some telling gaps between Sam and Goff.

The D contributed to this loss as well, Johnson has pretty much owned Flores the last 4 games they coached each other. In spite of that, we had our chances to win. That's where I get a whiff of Alex Smith/Cousins.

Detroit is a very very good team. We are very good.

*edit- 2 plays that really kept us close were the failed trick punt and the defensive TD.