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OT: AI

purplefaithful
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All this promise and hope with AI...

Will it evolve to something life-changing??

I will admit I am not familiar with much of it. 

I know pc, smartphone mfgrs and retailers are hoping its the next biggest thing. 

The features I have seen are not enticing me to open my wallet tomorrow. Maybe the day after...Maybe.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#1 · Sep 10, 4:57 AM
Montana Tom
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I've seen multiple applications that represent the double-edged sword of AI.

I've played with an AI apps on my iPhone called ASK AI. You can ask it by voice to write a letter that is an appreciate thank you letter, or a rejection letter or anything, and it comes back remarkably wordsmithed that makes me look like a gifted grammatical English writer.

We have two apps that we are testing that are linked into Teams calls (Real and Fireflies) and they record and synopsize the Teams calls with a point by point discussion of the agenda and then a recap of who is going to do what tasks following the meeting. Our accounting firm introduced me to one of them, can't recall who introduced the second. I think I like Real better.

I just looked at an AI sales platform that integrates into a CRM. Basically, instead of typing all followup information (the bane of any good sales person is the followup record keeping of what was said and the record-keeping of prospect status, sales calls, emails, orders, etc.). With this one, the sales person can merely log in on their phone and verbally capture what happened in the meeting, etc etc. It can scan business cards, and it integrates into most CRMs. I can see this being far more usefull than the scanners we use at tradeshows. It's a lot faster.

The downside is pretty well documented. From fake posts on the internet to editors using AI to write editorial content, to AI just taking over as it continues to evolve...it can get pretty weird out there. And it will.

#2 · Sep 10, 5:26 AM
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I think AI will do some things well, but I think we’re a long ways from it being creative and having actual intelligence. If you have a relatively niche job that is hard for people to learn, I think you probably don’t have to worry too much about AI taking your job.

I think AI is another in a long list of things that are “the next big thing”, but in hindsight were exploited to help inflate stock prices and bring in venture capitalist money. It’s also going to be an excuse for companies to fire people during the recession.

I think the biggest thing AI is going to be used for is spying on people. Both your phone and computer are heading towards having AI chips in them that will better monitor you, record what you say, record what you write, record what you read, and things it is programmed to care about it will alert whoever needs to know that. So very recently, Microsoft received a lot of backlash for announcing that it’s going to screen record everything you do. Not too long ago, Apple announced that it was going to move it’s AI child pornography detection from a server looking at your cloud photos to your phone looking at your private photos. We’re very close to having screen monitoring that will detect when you as a dissident journalist are typing something into a private, encrypted, messaging app, and report you to your local intelligence agency. Or if you are planning a protest on a social media site, it can be reported to the FBI, without them having to have agents in your group.

Most things labeled as AI, are just rebranding existing algorithms.

#3 · Sep 10, 7:57 AM
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Wow....what timing.

We JUST had an in-service on AI influence in schools (education)

You can go into "Gemini" and type in "Three page essay on "Whatever subject" ......three seconds later, your essay is written.
teachers now have to go to an "AI checker" program to see how much has been "AI'd" if suspected

BUT:
If you're teacher is Savvy enough to catch it, you can take the AI written prompt, and put into a "humanize" program

Also:
There's "Photo math" take a picture and the problem is solved.
There's "Socratic" take a picture of the question, and you'll get answers
Want a picture of Rodgers kissing a Ref? or a purple and gold komodo dragon, yeah you can do that too

I guess I've lived past my expectation for "Genuine intelligence"

#4 · Sep 10, 8:40 AM
Mike Olson
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There is no such thing as AI. What we have now is II. Imitative Intelligence. At the end of the day it is all just programming. It doens't mean it can't be incredibly useful so long as you understand the background of whatever AI tool you are using.

As far as schooling goes, we are going to go through the motions of doing the checking for ai written essays for a few years until we figure out how this new technology integrates into life and productivity and then all pretenses of limiting its uses will be cast aside because the benefits of it will outweigh the desire to keep it at bay. Eventually people will use it as a tool just as we went through the same thing with the internet itself.

To me it is much ado about not much. And the fight against it is just a charade.

edited Sep 10, 2024 8:57 AM

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#5 · Sep 10, 8:57 AM
Mike Olson
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About 7 years ago I think on these forums I made a post about how AI was going to change the world. In a lot of ways that is all starting to come true. The economy and jobs are going to be fundamentally changes in the not too distant future. Someone is still going to have to clean out the shitters and all of the muscle jobs that can't be replaced but in the not too distant future a lot of the jobs that we know are going to be gone or very different from what we know now.

Buggy whippers went through this too. Things will change. We will have to adapt. Humans are cockroaches. We will figure it out. But there will be a lot of pain and suffering along the way. Yippee.

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#6 · Sep 10, 9:01 AM
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I just think its funny that all the people that said the blue collar would be replaced by technology, are the ones actually getting displaced, those trade school blue collar jobs are the ones in highest demand and are by far safer career paths.

My last 20 years are going to be probably the scariest and most challenging times of my life as we see all these changes come about.

Thus far its pretty shitty, but you can see thats its making fast gains and i dont think it will be for the better of the human race.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#7 · Sep 10, 2:41 PM
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JimmyinSD wrote:
I just think its funny that all the people that said the blue collar would be replaced by technology, are the ones actually getting displaced,  those trade school blue collar jobs are the ones in highest demand and are by far safer career paths.

My last 20 years are going to be probably the scariest and most challenging times of my life as we see all these changes come about.

Thus far its pretty shitty,  but you can see thats its making fast gains and i dont think it will be for the better of the human race.

I think in a surprising twist, managerial jobs are the easiest ones for AI to replace, outside of simple conversational jobs.

#8 · Sep 11, 2:09 AM
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medaille wrote:

I think in a surprising twist, managerial jobs are the easiest ones for AI to replace, outside of simple conversational jobs.

hell I see engineering, and other professional jobs like that. I think I heard a lot of computer coding and website design is already being done by AI.
I dont know that I am ready yet, but how long before we have AI controlling the robotics already used in medical procedures?
Air Traffic Control, who is ready for the human element to be taken out of that stress ball?

I also question the functionality of the future of our race, what is the drive to learn when we have tech to rely on for damn near everything? what do we offer as a race when our tech can provide damn near everything our "professionals" currently do. I think AI in the classroom could be amazing, you could have customized learning plans for every single kid that moves them along and evaluates them as individuals... but at the same time, holy shit, who gets to decided how those things get programmed.. AI already thinks Nazis were people of all color and that a bunch of other shit isnt the way it really was. There needs to be integrity in the oversight instead of more "fake news" events getting programmed into perpetuity.

Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?

#9 · Sep 11, 6:17 AM
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