Vikings sign Rypien, waive Hall

Not really sure what this exactly means, but, lol....

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Kevin O'Connell said he still believes Jaren Hall will be here "for a long-term process." Adding Brett Rypien as QB3 gives them a better "short-term" outlook "knowing what we went through" in starting four QBs last season.

bigbone62 wrote:

Any team poaching him would have to immediately put him on the 53 man roster, is he really promising enough that a team is going to cut an active player to add a third string QB? Lets be real, prior to the last two weeks the majority of fans wouldn't have given a flying fart about him being cut. He has a few good preseason games against scrubs and he's the next training camp superstar. That said, I'm not advocating for him needing to go or that I like the move. But the handwringing over a backups backup has been interesting to say the least.

I think it's more likely that a team has only 2 QBs, one gets injured, and they might bring in a Hall type guy to be the backup for a period of time.  I don't think it's hand-wringing as much as it is "WTF is this?" when your QB was promising and they replaced him with a guy who's the same caliber but with more bad tape and with less potential for growth.

Vanguard83 wrote:
Ummm....Hate to be the one to point this out, but didn't Risner have some sideline altercation / issue with Rypien when they were with the Bronco's?

You are correct 

medaille wrote:

I think it's more likely that a team has only 2 QBs, one gets injured, and they might bring in a Hall type guy to be the backup for a period of time.  I don't think it's hand-wringing as much as it is "WTF is this?" when your QB was promising and they replaced him with a guy who's the same caliber but with more bad tape and with less potential for growth.

I respect your opinion but guess we differ on promising and what's wort putting forth effort to be bothered by a guy being cut. His promise was two preseason games against a bunch of scrubs. Again, prior to those games no one was pounding the table for him talking about a promising prospect.

bigbone62 wrote:

I respect your opinion but guess we differ on promising and what's wort putting forth effort to be bothered by a guy being cut. His promise was two preseason games against a bunch of scrubs. Again, prior to those games no one was pounding the table for him talking about a promising prospect.

Well what is your take on Rypien?  Is he "promising" or at least any more "promising" than Hall?

medaille wrote:
I think it's more likely that a team has only 2 QBs, one gets injured, and they might bring in a Hall type guy to be the backup for a period of time.  I don't think it's hand-wringing as much as it is "WTF is this?" when your QB was promising and they replaced him with a guy who's the same caliber but with more bad tape and with less potential for growth.

Not sure how Hall is 'promising'. He's a 3rd string guy. And now he's cut, so the action speaks louder than KOC's words. Again, this is for QB3 so its a big nothing burger.

StickierBuns wrote:

Not sure how Hall is 'promising'. He's a 3rd string guy. And now he's cut, so the action speaks louder than KOC's words. Again, this is for QB3 so its a big nothing burger.

Ok, same question as above.  Well what is your take on Rypien?  Is he "promising" or at least any more "promising" than Hall?  Or in your mind are we just shuffling garbage around and should have brought in a decent RB or someone who can contribute?

KOC's mystery babble about Hall at the presser might make sense if the reason for his release was whatever injury happened at Cleveland. He might be back at some point, who knows.

medaille wrote:

Well what is your take on Rypien?  Is he "promising" or at least any more "promising" than Hall?

My half joking take is the amount of the time/energy that this fan base has spent being upset by a third string QB is odd. Darnold is a one year stop gap, on a team not competing for anything. If he goes down we're even less competitive with Mullens. If Mullens goes down we are no more competitive with Hall. Thus I don't get the angst. 

My real take away is that in the coming weeks Hall is either on the PS or the third string QB and all the hyperbole was for not.

StickierBuns wrote:

This mostly. But I'm fine with Gaskin at RB3. 

Here's my take: I don't think KOC or the organization is fond of Hall. Why he continues to speak like he is is beyond me. Maybe he's a nice kid. But the actions of the franchise is they don't care about Jaren Hall's future in Minnesota. Rypien must be more game-ready in their eyes than Hall in case of mass casualties at the position like last year.

Could there be some intel they are probing with the Bears. He just spent the summer installing the new Williams offense. Most likely not, since the will be a lot of exposure prior to week 12.  I wonder how much players share, is there some professional ethic or standard they have?

Vanguard83 wrote:
Ummm....Hate to be the one to point this out, but didn't Risner have some sideline altercation / issue with Rypien when they were with the Bronco's?

Yep, there was some sideline shoving going on by Risner

The more I look at this, the more I think it’s the injury and the money (business decision). If they kept him his salary is guaranteed and if he isn’t good to go for a bit, it may have made more sense to try to get him at a lower price.

Hall has some ability - he has a nice arm and good mobility. When you watch any QB against the scrubs, your evaluation should be about doing the things a guy needs to do and ignore who he’s facing. Decision making, accuracy, and running the offense are useful areas to evaluate regardless of the actual competition.

Brett Rypian sucks. He’s a step down, but he is healthy. After last year, I think having three good to go is important to them. Important enough to let Hall go. If I was Hall, I’d be furious. He did what he needed to do to make the team and he’s better than Rypian. I’d think long and hard about coming back. If he is injured, he will not be able to pass a physical and may now be stuck hanging out there until he can. I get the move by the team, it doesn’t mean I’d forgive Kwesi anytime soon.

medaille wrote:
Ok, same question as above.  Well what is your take on Rypien?  Is he "promising" or at least any more "promising" than Hall?  [b]Or in your mind are we just shuffling garbage around and should have brought in a decent RB or someone who can contribute?[/b]

This mostly. But I'm fine with Gaskin at RB3.  Here's my take: I don't think KOC or the organization is fond of Hall. Why he continues to speak like he is is beyond me. Maybe he's a nice kid. But the actions of the franchise is they don't care about Jaren Hall's future in Minnesota. Rypien must be more game-ready in their eyes than Hall in case of mass casualties at the position like last year.

Some of the best RUN blocking I've seen from Risner was shoving Rypien

StickierBuns wrote:
Nobody has picked up Hall, so I'm sure the rest of the league is on board with Minnesota. I mean, if Hall comes back, its definitely with his tail between his legs. Its a statement to cut a guy for the QB3 role that is indoctrinated in the system for a guy cold off the street and plugged into the #3 role.

I get wanting to have a guy on the roster with some experience. But since Rypien is new to our offense, in an emergency situation, is he really going to offer more than Hall could have? I guess KOC thinks so. Just a little bit of a head scratcher to me.

StickierBuns wrote:

Agreed, so the obvious thought is KOC isn't stupid....so Hall must be not good. I wasn't impressed at all with his preseason, in fact to me it showed his glaring limitations.

Yet it was this regime that drafted Hall. Sure, they might’ve come to the conclusion that he had no future in the league after seeing him for the past 18 months, but if he’s so bad that they’re willing to walk away already, why draft him in the first place?

Nobody has picked up Hall, so I'm sure the rest of the league is on board with Minnesota. I mean, if Hall comes back, its definitely with his tail between his legs. Its a statement to cut a guy for the QB3 role that is indoctrinated in the system for a guy cold off the street and plugged into the #3 role.

StickierBuns wrote:

Agreed, so the obvious thought is KOC isn't stupid....so Hall must be not good. I wasn't impressed at all with his preseason, in fact to me it showed his glaring limitations.

I think it's about the injury, actually. I think Hall might be back at some point.

MaroonBells wrote:
I get wanting to have a guy on the roster with some experience. But since Rypien is new to our offense, in an emergency situation, is he really going to offer more than Hall could have? I guess KOC thinks so. Just a little bit of a head scratcher to me.

Agreed, so the obvious thought is KOC isn't stupid....so Hall must be not good. I wasn't impressed at all with his preseason, in fact to me it showed his glaring limitations.

Knucklehead wrote:

Yet it was this regime that drafted Hall. Sure, they might’ve come to the conclusion that he had no future in the league after seeing him for the past 18 months, but if he’s so bad that they’re willing to walk away already, why draft him in the first place?

Lol, you're essentially asking why they didn't use their time machine when drafting him to fast forward 18 months to see he wouldn't pan out. You draft  guys based on potential. They saw enough potential in his college tape to use a late round pick. They saw enough in 18 months to determine he wasn't progressing like they'd like and could move on. 31 other teams seemed to agree that he wasn't worth a roster spot.