Not a Roaring Start, JD.

Heh...I just got a warning for reminding a rabidly-posting dem on IG that their new prez candidate is a known political "ho" that loves caging minorities with tiny drug charges; I also shared the clip of her responding to inquiries about her lack of border presence with "I haven't even been to Europe".

I'm probably gonna be banned from social media in general by election day, but primarily for pointing out the truth. Again.

Zanary wrote:
Wow...negative, right out of the gate? Not a great look, especially for a guy whose past quotes and flip-flopping on Trumplestilskin are going to be target practice 'til November. Did the Donald keep the receipt?

I saw that Harris' campaign "congratulated" him on the lowest debut polling...ever.

Mike Pence is likely chuckling into his Scotch, sipping from special "Pray Away the Gay" glasses....

Not sure anybody knows him.  The media and the Democrats went after him before he was named....they went after him harder than the other supposed "finalists".   That tells me the Dems think he's more of a problem than the alternatives.  So...you have a Republican base that doesn't know the Junior Senator from Ohio who has only been in office a few years...and the Dems and enabling media who has painted him an extremist.  It will be his job to change the perspective going forward.

badgervike wrote:

Not sure anybody knows him.  The media and the Democrats went after him before he was named....they went after him harder than the other supposed "finalists".   That tells me they think he's more of a problem than the alternatives.  So...you have a Republican base that doesn't know the Junior Senator from Ohio who has only been in office a few years...and the Dems and enabling media who has painted him an extremist.  It will be his job to change the perspective going forward.

At least one German publisher just dropped his book, and he's apparently pissed off every childless woman in the country in record time.

He's pure s**t at reading the room, I can say that much early on. We breed less, and women wait longer, nowadays.

Granted, orange-boi's "unity" babble was proven to be a steaming pile pretty quickly, but it looks like the VP candidate may actually make things worse, not draw youth to the gop vote.

Their secret weapon was, and remains, that Harris has a horrible past and is a tragic speaker. Sadly, the real problem is that one of these complete wreck-fests is destined to get into the Oval Office, continuing the duopoly's destruction of this country.

Just over 3 months until 140+ million Americans are too fuggin' stupid to count higher than two.

Zanary wrote:

At least one German publisher just dropped his book, and he's apparently pissed off every childless woman in the country in record time.

He's pure s**t at reading the room, I can say that much early on. We breed less, and women wait longer, nowadays.

Granted, orange-boi's "unity" babble was proven to be a steaming pile pretty quickly, but it looks like the VP candidate may actually make things worse, not draw youth to the gop vote.

Their secret weapon was, and remains, that Harris has a horrible past and is a tragic speaker. Sadly, the real problem is that one of these complete wreck-fests is destined to get into the Oval Office, continuing the duopoly's destruction of this country.

Just over 3 months until 140+ million Americans are too fuggin' stupid to count higher than two.

Lol.  You really should get a healing oitment for that TDS Z.  So...a German publisher drops the book purely because of politics (his affiliation with Trump)...another German publishedsweeps in and has retained the publishing rights....for a book that is currently back at #1 on the NYT Best Seller List while the movie is back in the Top 10 this week (#5 on Netflix).  You didn't mention any of that...  But sure...the only point to make is the publishing rights originally being dropped.

https://www.newsweek.com/german-publisher-drops-jd-vance-book-1930105

I have watched some of Vance's interviews (prior to being selected as Trump's VP candidate).  He does very well at diffusing hostile interviewers and rebuttal in hostile media situations.  I think that's what scares the Left about him.  Again, it's his job to make the case as it's Kamala's job to convince the public that she's even mildly competent.  I personally have my doubts.  Maybe next time the Democrats will select a competent VP candidate instead of simply virtue signaling.

badgervike wrote:

Lol.  You really should get a healing oitment for that TDS Z.  So...a German publisher drops the book purely because of politics (his affiliation with Trump)...another German publishedsweeps in and has retained the publishing rights....for a book that is currently back at #1 on the NYT Best Seller List while the movie is back in the Top 10 this week (#5 on Netflix).  You didn't mention any of that...  But sure...the only point to make is the publishing rights originally being dropped.

https://www.newsweek.com/german-publisher-drops-jd-vance-book-1930105

I have watched some of Vance's interviews (prior to being selected as Trump's VP candidate).  He does very well at diffusing hostile interviewers and rebuttal in hostile media situations.  I think that's what scares the Left about him.  Again, it's his job to make the case as it's Kamala's job to convince the public that she's even mildly competent.  I personally have my doubts.  Maybe next time the Democrats will select a competent VP candidate instead of simply virtue signaling.

Oh, right, I'd forgotten that negative debuts were all the rage among the lobotomized...silly me! Must be that "new math", with the nebulous square footage, the false net worths, and the stated billions in assets that get one to grovel for legal fees. If only I'd gone to the fraud college and learned better! Well, before it was shut down as a scam in 2011, anyway.

Or, y'know, been a simp follower that doesn't care about accuracy or honesty, but I lack that special smooth-brain quality that makes a red cap fit so well!  :cool:

I've watched a good bit of his prattle now, too, and the worst bit is watching his wife look proud and dignified...for the first few minutes, then like she has gastronomical issues. She maybe deals with a poor TDS (total dissolved solids) ratio. I'm imagining that it has to do with a recent influx of concentrated bovine feces to her diet. She is of Indian descent, after all....

Zanary wrote:

Oh, right, I'd forgotten that negative debuts were all the rage among the lobotomized...silly me! Must be that "new math", with the nebulous square footage, the false net worths, and the stated billions in assets that get one to grovel for legal fees. If only I'd gone to the fraud college and learned better! Well, before it was shut down as a scam in 2011, anyway.

Or, y'know, been a simp follower that doesn't care about accuracy or honesty, but I lack that special smooth-brain quality that makes a red cap fit so well!  :cool:

I've watched a good bit of his prattle now, too, and the worst bit is watching his wife look proud and dignified...for the first few minutes, then like she has gastronomical issues. She maybe deals with a poor TDS (total dissolved solids) ratio. I'm imagining that it has to do with a recent influx of concentrated bovine feces to her diet. She is of Indian descent, after all....

I've mostly read and heard positive reviews on Vance from voters.  Why are you surprised that the MSM is doing anything and everything to soil his name?  You seem to forget that they're actively manipulating the message.   But I guess as long as you can write your long and frankly strange posts displaying your anger and literary limitations, you'll somehow think you're making a point.

Waterboy wrote:

I've mostly read and heard positive reviews on Vance from voters.  Why are you surprised that the MSM is doing anything and everything to soil his name?  You seem to forget that they're actively manipulating the message.   But I guess as long as you can write your long and frankly strange posts displaying your anger and literary limitations, you'll somehow think you're making a point.

As you're one of 3-4 posters in a 29 page echo-chamber thread on this page, you'll understand if I'm laughing hard at what your "sources" might be...because you're fond of one that's been fined almost a billion bucks for being liars, another filing for bankruptcy for being known liars, and another that's described, even among very neutral sites, as "distorted".

So, yeah, I'm sure the reviews have been positive!

Similarly, one reason I didn't bring up his boosted book sales, as badger found so offensive (or something), is because...he OBVIOUSLY was going to get a boost with his candidacy. So did mattress-politician and occasional VP Harris, whose own book was two years older.  They both got sales boosts when they got onto their respective tickets, as they obviously would.

I see Vance as a huge, missed opportunity...which is basically how I see everything since Trumplestilskin's "ear piercing"; orange boi posted about "unity", then went into typical blathering attack mode with typical fictions and distortions, while Vance COULD have been a slightly different guy, someone to connect with younger voters and to show slightly different, wider views for a bit of variety...but no, he's basically just pushing the same prattle and blaming the media for...reporting things he said, said again, and tripled down on.

Sorry if it's wordy, or too complicated for you.

Zanary wrote:

As you're one of 3-4 posters in a 29 page echo-chamber thread on this page, you'll understand if I'm laughing hard at what your "sources" might be...because you're fond of one that's been fined almost a billion bucks for being liars, another filing for bankruptcy for being known liars, and another that's described, even among very neutral sites, as "distorted".

So, yeah, I'm sure the reviews have been positive!

Similarly, one reason I didn't bring up his boosted book sales, as badger found so offensive (or something), is because...he OBVIOUSLY was going to get a boost with his candidacy. So did mattress-politician and occasional VP Harris, whose own book was two years older.  They both got sales boosts when they got onto their respective tickets, as they obviously would.

I see Vance as a huge, missed opportunity...which is basically how I see everything since Trumplestilskin's "ear piercing"; orange boi posted about "unity", then went into typical blathering attack mode with typical fictions and distortions, while Vance COULD have been a slightly different guy, someone to connect with younger voters and to show slightly different, wider views for a bit of variety...but no, he's basically just pushing the same prattle and blaming the media for...reporting things he said, said again, and tripled down on.

Sorry if it's wordy, or too complicated for you.

Not too wordy or complicated.  Frankly just makes you sound like a total weirdo with issues.  lol

Well, again...I'm not the one as the prime poster in an almost 30-page tinfoil headwear exhibition, so we'll agree not to be on each others' frequencies.

I kinda want to start the pool on how long before orange boi meets with Turkish assclown Erdogan, as he seems to coddle and flatter the worst people on Earth at any given moment, and that particular example is talking about invading Israel....

Zanary wrote:

As you're one of 3-4 posters in a 29 page echo-chamber thread on this page, you'll understand if I'm laughing hard at what your "sources" might be...because you're fond of one that's been fined almost a billion bucks for being liars, another filing for bankruptcy for being known liars, and another that's described, even among very neutral sites, as "distorted".

So, yeah, I'm sure the reviews have been positive!

Similarly, one reason I didn't bring up his boosted book sales, as badger found so offensive (or something), is because...he OBVIOUSLY was going to get a boost with his candidacy. So did mattress-politician and occasional VP Harris, whose own book was two years older.  They both got sales boosts when they got onto their respective tickets, as they obviously would.

I see Vance as a huge, missed opportunity...which is basically how I see everything since Trumplestilskin's "ear piercing"; orange boi posted about "unity", then went into typical blathering attack mode with typical fictions and distortions, while Vance COULD have been a slightly different guy, someone to connect with younger voters and to show slightly different, wider views for a bit of variety...but no, he's basically just pushing the same prattle and blaming the media for...reporting things he said, said again, and tripled down on.

Sorry if it's wordy, or too complicated for you.

I wasn't offended.  It's pretty hard to offend me.  I thought throwing in the German Publisher was lazy and pointless and questioned why it was included.  I actually had to go do a search to find out what you were even referring to.  I looked it up and found it was a big nothing burger...in fact the actual point is 180 degrees out of phase with the point you made.  Since you brought it up, it was a lot like Waterboy posting individual athlete deaths in that thread of his with no specific tie to the vaccine..just a lot of innuendo.  Young athletes have died tragically forever particularly in the days of supplements and significantly oversized athletes.  The human body doesn't support 7 ft athletes or 320 pound linemen (See Len Bias and Hank Gathers et al).  Do I believe the science that the vaccine has causes cardio related issues?  Absolutely.  Do I believe you can tie any single death to the vaccine...nope.   I haven't been in that thread in quite some time.

In this case, Vance already had moved to another publisher in Germany.  Frankly, I'm not sure how many sales you're going to get for a German language version of an 8 year old book about growing up in Appalachia and turning out successful.  If I was a German Publisher, I'd have a tough time trying to determine potential new sales in Germany for Hillbilly Elegy.  There's clearly interest in the US as they get to know Vance (as well as Kamala's book is as well).  When you went the whole Red Cap route after I pointed that out...it just wasn't worth responding.  Vance's book is #1 on the New York Times and USA Today best sellers list today btw....

badgervike wrote:

I wasn't offended.  It's pretty hard to offend me.  I thought throwing in the German Publisher was lazy and pointless and questioned why it was included.  I actually had to go do a search to find out what you were even referring to.  I looked it up and found it was a big nothing burger...in fact the actual point is 180 degrees out of phase with the point you made.  Since you brought it up, it was a lot like Waterboy posting individual athlete deaths in that thread of his with no specific tie to the vaccine..just a lot of innuendo.  Young athletes have died tragically forever particularly in the days of supplements and significantly oversized athletes.  The human body doesn't support 7 ft athletes or 320 pound linemen (See Len Bias and Hank Gathers et al).  Do I believe the science that the vaccine has causes cardio related issues?  Absolutely.  Do I believe you can tie any single death to the vaccine...nope.   I haven't been in that thread in quite some time.

In this case, Vance already had moved to another publisher in Germany.  Frankly, I'm not sure how many sales you're going for a German language version of an 8 year old book about growing up in Appalachia and turning out successful.  If I was a German Publisher, I'd have a tough time trying to determine potential new sales in Germany for Hillbilly Elegy.  There's clearly interest in the US as they get to know Vance (as well as Kamala's book is as well).  When you went the whole Red Cap route after I pointed that out...it just wasn't worth responding.  Vance's book is #1 on the New York Times and USA Today best sellers list today btw....

...maybe he can repeat that feat with "Backpedaling Ohio Boy: the NeverTrumper About-Face"! That title's at least as good as his.

I have to wonder if he's in this for pure damage control, now that orange-boi is babbling incoherence at a Biden-like level. He's insisting that Kamala didn't pass the bar (he's been wrong about that for years), he can't seem to get a single quote about the economy or January 6th right, and his most popular meme looks like he's giving handies to both Putin and Kim-Jong-Un at the same time.

I hope he has more than one of those ties, and/or is better about dry cleaning than Monica Lewinsky. Just sayin'.

(attempts at ribald levity will be hailed as "anger" or "nuclear" momentarily...)

I saw this and thought it might fit here....

JimmyinSD wrote:
I saw this and thought it might fit here....

...and quit fucking over the country.

badgervike wrote:

I wasn't offended.  It's pretty hard to offend me.  I thought throwing in the German Publisher was lazy and pointless and questioned why it was included.  I actually had to go do a search to find out what you were even referring to.  I looked it up and found it was a big nothing burger...in fact the actual point is 180 degrees out of phase with the point you made.  Since you brought it up, it was a lot like Waterboy posting individual athlete deaths in that thread of his with no specific tie to the vaccine..just a lot of innuendo.  Young athletes have died tragically forever particularly in the days of supplements and significantly oversized athletes.  The human body doesn't support 7 ft athletes or 320 pound linemen (See Len Bias and Hank Gathers et al).  Do I believe the science that the vaccine has causes cardio related issues?  Absolutely.  Do I believe you can tie any single death to the vaccine...nope.   I haven't been in that thread in quite some time.

In this case, Vance already had moved to another publisher in Germany.  Frankly, I'm not sure how many sales you're going to get for a German language version of an 8 year old book about growing up in Appalachia and turning out successful.  If I was a German Publisher, I'd have a tough time trying to determine potential new sales in Germany for Hillbilly Elegy.  There's clearly interest in the US as they get to know Vance (as well as Kamala's book is as well).  When you went the whole Red Cap route after I pointed that out...it just wasn't worth responding.  Vance's book is #1 on the New York Times and USA Today best sellers list today btw....

One Huuuuuugggeee difference in your examples.  The MSM refused for months even years to print the truth about the vaccine, so examples that were questionable were about the only thing that people could reference.  Try googling and you came up with Bupkus.  Now that things have slowly leaked out, the major studies are showing that the vaccines and masking were / are worthless.  The supposed better "outcomes" are the last line of defense in the argument, and even that is now being shown to be blarney as the built in immunity of people already having the virus leads to the same or better outcome then the many times boosted vaxxers.  I agree with your logic on individual examples not proving anything, but given the situation, I think the awareness raised during that time by people that fought back put us in a collectively better situation in preventing another round of forced vaxxing and masking.  It also exposed the government and media in their collusion to hide the truth.  People all know this now, whether they want to admit it is an entirely different story.

cWaterboy wrote:

One Huuuuuugggeee difference in your examples.  The MSM refused for months even years to print the truth about the vaccine, so examples that were questionable were about the only thing that people could reference.  Try googling and you came up with Bupkus.  Now that things have slowly leaked out, the major studies are showing that the vaccines and masking were / are worthless.  The supposed better "outcomes" are the last line of defense in the argument, and even that is now being shown to be blarney as the built in immunity of people already having the virus leads to the same or better outcome then the many times boosted vaxxers.  I agree with your logic on individual examples not proving anything, but given the situation, I think the awareness raised during that time by people that fought back put us in a collectively better situation in preventing another round of forced vaxxing and masking.  It also exposed the government and media in their collusion to hide the truth.  People all know this now, whether they want to admit it is an entirely different story.

Except, as much as Fauci is a sh*t, the vaccines WERE NOT USELESS, and once you get out of the "sources" at the intersection of Tinfoil Street and Hat Avenue, there are many actual studies NOT done by sources either fined for lying or facing bankruptcy for being shameless conspiracy whores:

COVID-19 vaccines prevented nearly 20 million deaths in 1 year (medicalnewstoday.com)

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives

COVID-19 Vaccination Campaign Saved 2.4 Million Lives – USC Schaeffer

I've said, MANY times here and elsewhere, that it was handled completely wrong and that the government left a series of steamers in the bed...but the vaccines helped a great many people, whereas those that suffered acute side effects were very few, particularly per capita.

The masks, the 6 foot distancing, and I'd even argue that many of the shutdowns (mostly under Orange Boi) did far more harm than good, and the damage to school students was enormous...but the vaccines are not vaporware, and many helped slow the spread dramatically. All the hatred of Fauci and insistence on blaming the dnc for things that happened under "the Donald" don't change that.

Zanary wrote:

Except, as much as Fauci is a sh*t, the vaccines WERE NOT USELESS, and once you get out of the "sources" at the intersection of Tinfoil Street and Hat Avenue, there are many actual studies NOT done by sources either fined for lying or facing bankruptcy for being shameless conspiracy whores:

COVID-19 vaccines prevented nearly 20 million deaths in 1 year (medicalnewstoday.com)

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives

COVID-19 Vaccination Campaign Saved 2.4 Million Lives – USC Schaeffer

I've said, MANY times here and elsewhere, that it was handled completely wrong and that the government left a series of steamers in the bed...but the vaccines helped a great many people, whereas those that suffered acute side effects were very few, particularly per capita.

The masks, the 6 foot distancing, and I'd even argue that many of the shutdowns (mostly under Orange Boi) did far more harm than good, and the damage to school students was enormous...but the vaccines are not vaporware, and many helped slow the spread dramatically. All the hatred of Fauci and insistence on blaming the dnc for things that happened under "the Donald" don't change that.

Oh, but it's fading, now you should both get covid and the vaccines and a booster to be at your safest.  Anyone believing the numbers you post above are simply the same sheeple that bought into the whole vaccine / mask / Fauci BS to begin with.  The slippery slope continues on, and my isn't the silence on getting boosted deafening.  lol   This is simply an organized effort to save face.  And BS.

Natural immunity as protective as Covid vaccine against severe illness (nbcnews.com)

Should've read the NBCNEWS article, because even the natural immunity can benefit from boosters:

"Notably, the immunity acquired from infection did appear to wane more slowly than the immunity from two doses of an mRNA vaccine.

However, Murray said a booster dose would return protection to a higher level."

Right from your article.

BTW, this clown is a hilarious pick for VP. If you're a communist, pick somebody to your left. lol He does fit the "fraud" profile, but he's "folksy".

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/minnesota-national-guard-leaders-expose-tim-walz-stolen/

It's also Darwinian as hell, because it's the people with comorbidities, always was, that were at the most risk...so they're in a MUCH higher risk game of "FAFO", just betting on natural immunity.

They have options, ones that your sunkist savior not only championed, but has utilized himself. You can keep insisting that they're useless, but a whole lot of actual scientists that aren't going bankrupt from BS or just echo-chambering on a football board seem to know a bit more.

It's also Darwinian as hell, because it's the people with comorbidities, always was, that were at the most risk...so they're in a MUCH higher risk game of "FAFO", just betting on natural immunity.

They have options, ones that your sunkist savior not only championed, but has utilized himself.  You can keep insisting that they're useless, but a whole lot of actual scientists that aren't going bankrupt from BS or just echo-chambering on a football board seem to know a bit more.

The "comorbidity" people should always have had the right to take the vaccine.  No one should have been forced.  Trump never supported that.  My mom and dad both had co-morbidities at the time and survived just fine with no vaccine.  Since taking the vaccine my mom hasn't been the same.   Scientists that were complicit like Fauci and knowingly lied on numerous occasions.  Are those the ones you're referring to?  Once again, with all the weird terms, you just sound deranged.

Zanary wrote:
It's also Darwinian as hell, because it's the people with comorbidities, always was, that were at the most risk...so they're in a MUCH higher risk game of "FAFO", just betting on natural immunity.

They have options, ones that your sunkist savior not only championed, but has utilized himself.  You can keep insisting that they're useless, but a whole lot of actual scientists that aren't going bankrupt from BS or just echo-chambering on a football board seem to know a bit more.