OT: Reusable Fuel
I dont think this should turn political...
I believe the initiative is mostly focused on Europe as they have much stricter regulations coming vs North America. Joint test with Toyota/BMW for now.
I hadn't heard of this before?
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"Reusable gasoline," or renewable gasoline, refers to synthetic, non-fossil-based fuels that act as a "drop-in" replacement for regular petroleum. They are designed to power standard internal-combustion engines without requiring any engine or fueling infrastructure modifications.
BMW, in collaboration with Toyota, Bosch, and Repsol, is running a real-world pilot project to test 100% renewable gasoline in standard production vehicles.
The Fuel: The test utilizes a 100% renewable gasoline (e.g., Repsol's Nexa 95) produced from organic waste and sustainable biomass feedstocks (such as used cooking oil).
The Concept (VEEF): The initiative tests "Vehicles Exclusively running on Eligible Fuels." The goal is to prove that internal combustion can run with dramatically slashed lifecycle carbon emissions without requiring drivers to switch to EVs.
Digital Tracking: Bosch provides a "Digital Fuel Twin" system. This uses vehicle telemetry and fuel station data to track the renewable fuel from production to the pump, verifying that the vehicle is exclusively running on green fuel.
Emissions Reduction: The renewable fuel slashes greenhouse gas emissions by over 70% compared to traditional fossil fuels.
Legacy Vehicles: There are over a billion combustion cars already on the road. Using renewable gasoline allows existing BMW owners to lower their carbon footprint without buying a brand-new vehicle.
Policy Influence: The companies are gathering tangible data in Europe to show policymakers that sustainable, drop-in fuels are a viable, complementary path to total electrification.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
I know a guy that has been working on biomass fuel for a long time. Getting the car makers to "buy in" is the trick. Would be interesting if it works, turn waste into fuel. Maybe old Doc Brown was onto something in the sequel.
The problem always has been scaleability and the energy required to create energy with biomass. Collecting enough "used cooking oil" requires large scale collection methods (that even with 100% recovery would only offset a small amount of the gas needed). Converting organic waste into fuel...requires fuel and again widespread collection, sorting, transportation and conversion. It's much like the biofuel pipe dream with large scale algae farms. You gotta try...I get that...but frankly this isn't going to even make a dent in covering demand. It's an advanced high school science project.
These people don't care about the environment. Where are the politicians when it comes to AI data centers?
I'm all for protecting the environment, but they keep trying to introduce these schemes where they shutdown your ability to do stuff because of the environment, meanwhile rich people can just buy their freedom.
Don't think it will turn political? That's some low hang fruit your asking me not to pick. I will refrain.. for now 🫣
Highly political subject that ultimately comes down to $ and political power.
hogjowlsjohnny wrote:
Highly political subject that ultimately comes down to $ and political power.
I must be naive cause I didnt think it was too political, really lol!
Anyways, glad everyone keeping it from getting confrontational. IF the mods want to move it in a pre-empt? I got no problem with that.
I used to sell BMW when I was done being a market researcher. So this large scale initiative in Europe caught my attention.
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
FWIW there's an energy shock incoming within the next 4?- 8? weeks,, globally.
It'll be greater than the one of the 1970's , Brace for impact.
Using AI, there'll be a real push to develop viable scalable alternatives.
To be fair, I’m all for having more choices on the market. I’m also for having some sort of traceability certification for ethical sourcing. I think biofuels could be a source of partial energy independence.
I’m just cynical.
What’s the purpose of the telemetry/surveillance aspect of it?
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