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  Strib: Vikings prepare to bring the D heat in 'waves'
Posted by: StickierBuns - 09-08-2025, 07:39 AM - Forum: The Longship - No Replies

Vikings ready to unleash Jonathan Allen, Javon Hargrave and a purple ‘wave’ upon the Bears

The Super Bowl champion Eagles showed what kind of damage an interior pass rush can do. So the Vikings added a layer of havoc to their defense.

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Sorry PF, didn't see your post on this. Mod please delete this if you can.

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  Do the Vikings need a song?
Posted by: MaroonBells - 09-08-2025, 06:33 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (15)

Never really thought of Mr. Brightside as much of a stadium sing along song, but it works. Enter Sandman at VT is pretty epic too. 

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  NFL Sunday Observations
Posted by: StickierBuns - 09-08-2025, 03:56 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (15)

An interesting day of football, led really with inconsistent QB play. I think some rust needed to be knocked off for Week 1. Saw some good QBs throw some very bad passes. Not a ton of yards thrown for in wins and losses. 

  • Green Bay basically dominated Detroit. That interior O-line is going to be a problem for the Lions. Goff got some garbage yards on a final drive or he'd have been under 200 yards thrown. Love had all day to throw, where was Aidan Hutchinson? The pass rush? Meathead looked lost.
  • Cleveland outgains the Bengals 2 to 1 in yardage, first downs and time of possession: and loses. Joe Burrow threw for a 113 yards. Didn't see any juggernaut in Cincinnati. 
  • Bo Nix had a bad game, threw 2 INTS but should have had 2 more. Only reason Denver won is because they played a rookie in Cam Ward, who didn't look horrible. 
  • New England had the same problems in their loss yesterday that they had all last year. Vrabel had Maye throw 46 times in their loss to the Raiders and his team isn't helping him. Not enough talent on that team by any stretch.
  • Not sure what Seattle was doing but they acted like Uncle Sammy was a new Iphone fresh out of the package: gently used. He was pedestrian for the most part and until one nice 40 yard throw on the last drive where he ultimately fumbled, he had 110 yards passing (finished with 150). The 49ers were there to be beaten with Purdy's really inconsistent game, throwing 2 horrible INTs and should have had another. 
  • Atlanta snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, blowing what was a pretty nice game from Michael Penix. Mayfield was just ok until being clutch toward the end.
  • If I'm Houston, I have to be a little concerned about CJ Stroud. The Texans aren't clutch at all and a critical turnover toward the end allowed Stafford to be Stafford and hold on for the win.
  • Jaxson Dart will be starting for the Giants by the beginning of October.
  • Bryce Young: I just don't see it with him. If Carolina has a shit year IMO they take a QB in round 1. The media crowned him a 'comeback' player last year and that was just mediocre. 2 INTs and 154 yards passing with a 20.1 QBR rating yesterday....against Jacksonville. Gross.
  • ...which leads me to Trevor Lawrence. Not sure what to make of this guy. He was a 'generational' QB coming out, they said. Etienne had a killer game yesterday and Lawrence still looked 'meh'.
  • Josh Allen is amazing. He's come into his own. He's at the peak of his talent and abilities....and Buffalo put up with a LOT of inconsistencies the first 3 years of his career to get to this place because he was RAW.
  • Before anyone crowns Aaron Rodgers (too late), this take from ESPN I agree with: "I mean ... really? Yes, 34 points is great. But this was a long way from a playoff game, and the Steelers took advantage of some serious gifts. The Jets outgained them 394 yards to 271, committed seven penalties and produced the game's only turnover at a pivotal time. And the Steelers still needed a 60-yard field goal to win. Play that game in Buffalo, Baltimore or Kansas City in January, and you ain't winning it."

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  Packers vs. Lions
Posted by: Watcher - 09-07-2025, 04:21 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (16)

Hmm.  I may have to revise my NFC North prediction to Vikes, Packers, Lions, Bears.

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  Jordan Addison approves
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-07-2025, 04:12 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

Detroit Lions wide receiver Jameson Williams has signed a three-year extension worth up to $83 million, sources confirmed to ESPN on Saturday.

The Lions announced Sunday that they had signed Williams through the 2029 season without disclosing terms. The two sides had agreed to the new deal less than 24 hours before the Lions' season opener at the Green Bay Packers.

Williams, 24, is coming off his first 1,000-yard receiving season and was entering the fourth year of his rookie contract, which included a fifth-year option. With Lions new offensive coordinator John Morton, Williams is expected to take on a bigger role alongside All-Pro wide receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown.

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  IDL
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-07-2025, 02:05 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (14)

In a Super Bowl beatdown for the ages, the Philadelphia Eagles spanked the one and only Patrick Mahomes while shining the brightest of all lights on the increasing importance of interior pressure by defensive tackles in a four-man rush in today’s NFL.

Per usual in a copycat league, other teams took sharp notice. Even the Vikings and blitz-happy defensive coordinator Brian Flores, who rushed five or more defenders a league-high 38.9% of the time a season ago.

As a new Vikings season dawns Monday night in Chicago, all eyes will be on first-year starting quarterback J.J. McCarthy and a revamped offensive line sporting an all-new interior. But let’s not forget the added layer of havoc the Vikings believe they now have in store for Bears second-year starting quarterback Caleb Williams and his improved line.

Let’s not forget the $81 million spent on free agents Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave — two of the best pass-rushing defensive tackles of their era. And let’s not forget about the other four promising young pass-rushing interior linemen the Vikings kept in former UFL player Jalen Redmond, 2024 seventh-round draft pick Levi Drake Rodriguez, 2025 fifth-round draft pick Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins and undrafted rookie Elijah Williams, who is fresh off being a rookie minicamp tryout guy after setting Morgan State’s career records for tackles for loss (52) and sacks (31).

“What we have is a beautiful thing,” Vikings defensive line coach Marcus Dixon said. “It really is. When you can roll a wave of guys up front who can put pressure on the quarterback like we can, it’s exciting to see. And I can’t wait to see it come alive on Monday night against Chicago.”

There’s that word again.

“Wave.”

A year ago, the Vikings had seven defensive linemen play 90 games with 47 starts and 2,467 snaps. Gone are five of them who played 75 games (83.3%) with 45 starts (95.7%) and 2,253 snaps (91.3%). Only Redmond (13 games, two starts) and Rodriguez (two games, zero starts) return.

Credit for that turnover, at least partially, goes to the world-champion Eagles, who have established the template for interior defensive line quality and quantity in recent years. In last season’s 40-22 Super Bowl victory over the Kansas Chiefs, three of Philly’s sacks and 10 of its pressures came from interior defensive linemen Milton Williams, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis and Moro Ojomo.

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“I love Mahomes, but I really loved that Super Bowl,” Vikings edge rusher Jonathan Greenard said. “Four defensive linemen getting after Mahomes like that? That was music to my ears.”

In Flores’ 3-4 defense, Greenard and Andrew Van Ginkel are outside linebackers. In their Vikings debut seasons a year ago, they combined for 41 quarterback hits, 36 tackles for loss and 23½ sacks. In Year 2, they believe they can be even better.

Why?

Because Flores is armed with yet another wrinkle — a 4-3 look that could reduce the amount of blitzing that’s necessary, put seven defenders in coverage and keep the heat on quarterbacks with Greenard, Van Ginkel and two inside rushers beefy enough to stop the run, too.

“Rush four, cover seven has always been the recipe for success,” Greenard said. “It’s just not always easy to do. It’s gotten a lot easier for us this year.”

The Vikings went into last year’s season opener with seven defensive linemen who had a combined total of 42 sacks in 359 games. Allen and Hargrave by themselves head into this season with a combined 87½ sacks in 239 games. Allen and Hargrave also top the previous in career tackles for loss (115-72) and quarterback hits (197-143) in 120 fewer games.

Now the tricky part: How to get the most out of Allen and Hargrave without wearing them out. Hargrave is 32 and missed 14 games with a triceps injury with the San Francisco 49ers last season. Allen is 30 and missed nine games with a torn pectoral with the Washington Commanders last year.

“I wouldn’t call it an art or a science, it’s more of an awareness thing,” Dixon said of monitoring snap counts for all his big fellas. “What’s the situation? Down and distance, two-minute, third down? The beauty of what we have is guys with position flexibility who we can roll in anywhere.”

A lot goes into spreading snaps around at defensive line. Dixon and assistant line coach Imarjaye Albury keep track of how many snaps in a row each player has been on the field.

“Three to four straight snaps is pretty typical for D-linemen, some guys five to six,” Dixon said.

But, again, it depends. Some snaps are hard, some easy. Some snaps require specific personnel because of the situation and/or the play call that comes from Flores.

“You just never know,” said Redmond, who became a starter in the base defense when Phillips was traded. “When you watch a game, look at how close the backups are to Coach Dixon on the sideline. The backup offensive linemen, they can go sit down because they never sub offensive linemen.

“Defensive linemen, we’re standing in Coach Dixon’s hip pocket. He calls your name, you can’t be off looking for your helmet.”

Allen has played 5,212 regular-season snaps. His career high for snaps is 868 in 2023 (79%), while his career high for percentage of snaps is 82% in 2022 (802).

Hargrave has played 4,859 regular-season snaps. His career high for snaps is 728 in 2021. His career high for percentage is 64% in 2022 (712) when he helped the Eagles to the Super Bowl before landing a mega deal with the 49ers.

“A deep D-line has kind of always been Philly’s thing,” Hargrave said. “I didn’t think about snap counts. We went until we got tired and someone else came in. We had the same thing in San Francisco. And now I look at these young guys coming up here, I think we’ll have the same thing with the Vikings, too.”

Dixon called the Vikings a great place to be for defensive linemen because of Flores’ creativeness and this sudden D-line “wave” that’s star-heavy at the top and itching to prove itself beyond that.

“When our guys up front are fresh and ready to go,” Dixon said, “it’s going to be exciting and something that can make this team really deadly.”

Anyone else got Marcus Dixon higher on their radar this year?

I know I do...

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  Wow, Ravens v Bills tonight!
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-07-2025, 12:14 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (5)

Great game to end the day!

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  Vikings V Bears
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-07-2025, 11:28 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (4)

The local take:
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The Vikings kick off the regular season in the final game of Week 1, as J.J. McCarthy makes his NFL debut in the stadium where he saw his first NFL game at age 4. He’ll face Caleb Williams, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2024 draft who went nine spots ahead of McCarthy.

McCarthy has played in two preseason games for the Vikings, but as he sees it, Monday night is his first real action since Jan. 8, 2024, when he led Michigan to a national championship against Washington. “Gotta be four quarters for it to count,” he said last week.

Here’s a look at what to expect at Soldier Field:

The biggest storyline
Familiar faces in new places: McCarthy and Williams have known each other since they were high school quarterbacks in the Elite 11 camp in 2020, both doubting they’d done enough to win MVP honors in the camp until Williams was announced as the winner. Williams has a year of experience, but McCarthy has familiarity with his coach: Williams is in his first year with former Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, whose offenses helped Detroit go 5-1 against the Vikings while he was there.

“There’s some predicting, some forecasting what he uses, but no one has a crystal ball,” defensive coordinator Brian Flores said of Johnson. “We don’t know what Ben has cooked up. It’s really more about fundamentals and techniques. Week 1 is normally about that.”


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Vikings offense vs. Bears defense

How will Bears cover Jefferson? In the first matchup between the teams last year, the Bears draped defenders around Justin Jefferson, giving him just 1.5 yards of average separation from the closest defender, according to NFL Next Gen Stats. The Bears played primarily Cover 3 and Cover 4 zones against Jefferson last season; it’ll be interesting if they take the same approach or use some of the man coverages that veteran defensive coordinator Dennis Allen typically likes to employ. Jaylon Johnson, the Bears corner who’d likely match up against Jefferson the most, has been dealing with calf and groin injuries, which could limit how much Allen wants him running with Jefferson.

Responsibility, challenge for run game: The Vikings are primed to run the ball more frequently in 2025, with Jordan Mason joining Aaron Jones behind a revamped offensive line. The first test for the group comes from a defense that ranked 28th against the run last year but will have a different feel under Allen, whose Saints defenses ranked in the top five against the run each year from 2018-21. The Bears signed former Falcon Grady Jarrett to occupy the middle of a 4-3 defense that will add some five-man fronts to change angles and assignments. The Vikings’ new offensive line will see an early test from Allen’s group.

Vikings defense vs. Bears offense

New front gets first swing at Johnson’s offense: After becoming one of the NFL’s hottest coaching candidates this offseason, Johnson moved from Detroit to Chicago, where the Bears are trying to replicate many of the tenets of his offense that gave the Vikings so much trouble the past three years. The Bears revamped their offensive line, drafted Colston Loveland as their answer to Sam LaPorta and built an offense that could mirror Detroit’s. The Vikings will counter with a defensive front that should provide more interior pass rush than it did last year, with Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave in the middle of the group.

Williams could be in for a test: Williams threw for 340 yards in the Bears’ first game against the Vikings last year, thanks to some spellbinding moments while he was on the move. He threw for only 191 yards on 31 attempts in the second game, as the Vikings pressured him 40% of the game while allowing him to complete only four passes longer than 10 yards. The additions of Hargrave and Jonathan Allen to the Vikings’ defense, as well as the growth of Dallas Turner, could put Williams in a tough spot again on Monday night, if the Vikings can create the matchups they want against the Bears’ line.

Injury report
Vikings
Out: RB Zavier Scott (ankle), DL Elijah Williams (hamstring)
Doubtful: S Harrison Smith (illness)
Questionable: T Christian Darrisaw (knee)
Bears
Doubtful: LB T.J. Edwards (hamstring)
Questionable: DB Jaylon Johnson (calf/groin), DB Josh Blackwell (groin), RB Roschon Johnson (foot)


Prediction
As much as Monday night is about McCarthy’s debut on national TV, it’s also a checkpoint for Williams, playing under a coach who was hired to maximize his talent while facing a defense that has preyed on youthful quarterbacks. Expect the Vikings to come after Williams throughout the night. If they can keep him from repeating the escape acts he staged at Soldier Field last year, they should extend their winning streak in the stadium, their house of horrors for much of the century, to a once-unthinkable six games. Vikings 17, Bears 13

I've been watching this team since back to Fran...

I have NO IDEA how the kid QB is going to handle MNF, on the road, division game.

The good news is he doesnt have to beat them by himself. Hella surround.

What I'm really going to scrutinize is how he does situationally with his arm/legs. There will be some key downs that fall right on his shoulders/feet.

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  If you can read the Strib online or get an actual Sunday paper, do it...
Posted by: StickierBuns - 09-07-2025, 11:20 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (6)

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  Nailor injury revealed
Posted by: MaroonBells - 09-07-2025, 10:43 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

Now, can we finally uncover the classified, top secret Harrison Smith illness? 

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