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  Nick Mangold gone at 41
Posted by: purplefaithful - 10-26-2025, 02:59 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (3)

Been battling Kidney disease 1/2 his life...

RIP

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Former New York Jets All-Pro center Nick Mangold died at the age of 41 due to complications of kidney disease, the team announced on Sunday.

Mangold died on Saturday night after battling chronic kidney disease for nearly 19 years and was undergoing dialysis.

“Nick was more than a legendary center,” Jets Chairman Woody Johnson said in a statement. “He was the heartbeat of our offensive line for a decade and a beloved teammate whose leadership and toughness defined an era of Jets football. Off the field, Nick’s wit, warmth, and unwavering loyalty made him a cherished member of our extended Jets family.”

The news comes ahead of the Jets’ game against the Bengals in Cincinnati, where the team is looking for its first win of the season.

On ESPN’s “Sunday NFL Countdown,” Mangold’s former head coach, Rex Ryan, was emotional upon learning of his passsing.

“It’s brutal,” Ryan said with Pro Football Hall of Famer Randy Moss consoling him. “Such a great young man. I had the pleasure of coaching him for all six years with the Jets.

“I remember it was obvious I was getting fired. My last game, Mangold’s injured. Like, injured. He comes to me and says, ‘I’m playing this game.’ He wanted to play for me. That’s what I remember about this kid. He was awesome and just way too young. I feel so bad for his wife and family – rough.”

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  Some QB perspective, this morning.
Posted by: Zanary - 10-26-2025, 11:01 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (10)

As we settle in for the torturous wait for one more week before (theoretically) seeing our young signal-caller, again, I was curious about how many starting QBs were injured this weekend.

Hmmm.

Burrow
Penix
Jackson
Daniels
Young

Now, we all expect that Joe Burrow will do something either stupid or random, and miss time each season. Lamar Jackson is almost miraculous in the number of games he has started, given his type of play. Penix had a thorough injury history before ever getting drafted, so this almost seems overdue. Jayden Daniels and Bryce Young are fellow young'uns, peers to our embattled QB, and they're both missing time.

The Browns' big-money QB and masseuse molester is still missing time from last season, though he's a long shot to ever start in the league again.

Kyler Murray and Brock Purdy also have missed time. Google says that 15 starting QBs have gotten injured to some degree this season, already.

While our young'un has barely stayed upright in his career so far, I'm wondering if the NFL is gonna need to start thinking in terms of baseball-style player rotations, even at the biggest positions....

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  I really thought they were on to something...
Posted by: purplefaithful - 10-26-2025, 10:13 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (17)

Hard to believe we still 10 games to go, but I ain't feeling too bullish these days. 

The offense I can explain away to some degree, the D? 

That is more alarming imo. 

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Coach Kevin O’Connell highlighted the need for interior offensive line upgrades from the postgame podium on Jan. 13, after the Vikings’ season had ended with nine sacks in a wild-card loss to the Rams. The Vikings signed Colts center Ryan Kelly to a two-year contract, gave his teammate Will Fries a five-year deal worth $88 million and used their first-round pick on Ohio State guard Donovan Jackson.

They also pursued more interior pass rush, meeting with multiple defensive tackles in the pre-draft process while talking with Jonathan Allen’s Minneapolis-based representatives after the former Pro Bowler was released by the Commanders. The Vikings gave Allen a three-year, $51 million deal and signed Javon Hargrave for $30 million over two years shortly after he was released by the 49ers. 

The Vikings felt good enough about the two veterans, as well as depth pieces like Jalen Redmond and Levi Drake Rodriguez, that they traded Harrison Phillips to the Jets in August.

All told, the Vikings committed more than $300 million to players this offseason, between the free agents they added and the players from their 2024 roster they re-signed. It followed General Manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah’s offseason manifesto about building a team “that could win any type of fight,” and, the Vikings hoped, surrounded J.J. McCarthy with enough proven talent that the 22-year-old quarterback wouldn’t have to display full mastery of the position in his first months as a starter for the team to win.

Nearly eight months after they started the plan, and seven games into a season that’s grated on their nerves, the Vikings face deep uncertainty and daunting future costs along both lines of scrimmage. 

They’ve used 10 different offensive linemen in seven games and still haven’t played a snap with their five preferred starters. They’ve given up at least two sacks in every game, and on Thursday night, the Chargers pressured Carson Wentz on 40.6% of his dropbacks despite blitzing him just 15.6% of the time.

As O’Connell grew concerned about the Vikings executing in the run game with right tackle Brian O’Neill out, as well as Christian Darrisaw and tight end Josh Oliver leaving because of injury, they handed off just 11 times for 34 yards against an opponent with the NFL’s fifth-worst run defense.

Hargrave, who played at least 67% of the Vikings’ defensive snaps in three of their first four games, hasn’t exceeded 50% since, as Redmond plays a larger role. Redmond, who had nine pressures Thursday, is now at 64.6% of the Vikings’ defensive snaps for the season, compared with 49.9% for Hargrave. Redmond also leads the team with three sacks; the two former Pro Bowlers have two each.

A team that began the season talking about a stifling defense and supportive front for McCarthy has had neither. After missing five games because of injury, the 22-year-old quarterback is set to return for a division matchup against the Lions at Ford Field, where the Vikings haven’t won since 2021, hoping for his first consistent full game as an NFL starter.

If it all seems concerning now, the Vikings are heading toward critical decisions along both lines of scrimmage this offseason.

They have more than $347 million of cap commitments for next year, meaning they could need to cut more than $30 million of space by next March just to be cap compliant. The Vikings could save money on restructures for players like T.J. Hockenson and Aaron Jones, but many of their decisions could hinge on those they added along the lines of scrimmage.

Hargrave has a $21.49 million cap number for next year, and the Vikings would save $11 million by releasing him. Releasing Kelly, who’s played just three games because of concussions this year, would mean a $7.89 million cap savings. Allen’s deal would have $17.33 million of dead money if the Vikings cut him, and the team would save only $4.28 million with a release, so he might have a stronger chance to stay. 

If the Vikings slide, though, and appear headed toward a larger roster reset in 2026, it’s hard to rule anything out.

STRIB


They remain in need of meaningful contributions from young players like Redmond, a UFL signee who has helped counteract a lack of production from draft picks. Dallas Turner, the edge rusher the Vikings traded up to draft 17th overall last year, is the most notable example. He’s already exceeded his snap count from his rookie year while Andrew Van Ginkel is out with a neck injury, but in 324 snaps this season, he’s registered only two sacks and 18 pressures, which is tied for 42nd among NFL edge rushers, according to Pro Football Focus.

The Vikings could have as many as 11 picks in next year’s draft, including four in the top 100, thanks to a third-round compensatory pick for Sam Darnold. They structured a series of August trades with the 2026 draft in view, trying to retain as much draft capital as possible, and could approach the upcoming trade deadline with the same factors in mind.

The 2026 draft appears to be a key opportunity for a front office that’s struggled to hit on draft picks under Adofo-Mensah. And with the Vikings’ age at certain positions (particularly on defense), as well as their salary cap situation for next year, the need for players who can contribute on rookie contracts is as high as ever.

They mostly sought upgrades in free agency this year, when they made just five draft picks in April, and they began the season with optimism about a feisty defense that made itself seen and heard in training camp practices.

Through seven games, though, the Vikings’ offensive line injuries have led to protection problems familiar to the ones they had last year, while a porous run defense and less potent pass rush are new problems on defense. To get it fixed, they’ll have to improve over a nasty 10-game schedule that resumes in Detroit next Sunday.

In their first seven games, the Vikings haven’t been able to win the kinds of fights they hoped their offseason investments would secure. Bloodied at SoFi Stadium on Thursday night, they headed into their mini-bye with unsolved issues that carry an expensive price tag.

The first seven games have revealed the difference between a plan on paper and results on the field.

Vikings General Manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah hit a jackpot with his free-agent class in 2024. His repeated draft failures forced him to lean on that methodology again in trying to improve the roster, yet splashy signings have not produced splashy performances. The personnel on the field Thursday looked old and slow, especially on defense.

Many of us fell into the age-old trap of focusing on a player’s past results in setting expectations, rather than acknowledging that a fountain of youth doesn’t exist in the NFL. Signing players on the wrong side of 30 with injury histories is always risky.

The Vikings were built upon the premise of being physical bullies in the trenches. Injuries and ineffectiveness have tossed that script into a fire pit.

Veterans Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen were signed to fortify the defensive line. Their impact has been minimal. Pro Football Focus ranks Hargrave 108th out of 136 defensive linemen in overall grade. Allen is 96th.

Center Ryan Kelly is sidelined after suffering two concussions in three weeks. Right guard Will Fries is ranked 42nd out of 83 guards by PFF.

The defense’s disappearance is most alarming because other than Andrew Van Ginkel, coordinator Brian Flores has had his full complement of personnel. Known for causing disruption with an array of disguises and pressures, the defense doesn’t appear to be fooling anyone, nor taking anything away.

They already have allowed two opponents to rush for 200 yards. Jalen Hurts and Justin Herbert shredded their pass defense in consecutive games, combining to complete 77% of their passes for 553 yards and six touchdowns.

Next up is what might be the NFL’s most explosive offense in Detroit Lions quarterback Jared Goff and collection of skill players.

What unfolded Thursday night at Los Angeles is the kind of loss that keeps coaches up at night. O’Connell, his staff and players have a lot to discuss, analyze and fix, assuming that last part is still possible.

The quarterback question should not even be a discussion at this point. J.J. McCarthy’s ankle should be healed enough for him to play. Get him back on the field and restart his development.

The Vikings don’t have an identity at this point. Not on offense or defense, something that is reliable regardless of circumstance. That is a jarring admission for a veteran team that was constructed to win now.

STRIB

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  Man, that team is full of Dawgs!
Posted by: purplefaithful - 10-26-2025, 08:29 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (1)

Anyone else watch A&M last night?

I know LSU is kinda down right now, but A&M was impressive on both sides of the ball. 

Could they beat Buckeyes in a CFP game?

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  OT: If you thought Thursday was bad, PJ Fleck says "Hold my Beer"
Posted by: RS_Express - 10-25-2025, 10:27 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (5)

The Hawkeyes were up 31-0 with a
Rushing TD
Passing TD
Pick 6
PR TD

in the first 20 minutes.  Before the Gophers had a first down.

Final: 41-3.  

Game summary: 

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  Interesting stats
Posted by: comet52 - 10-25-2025, 12:34 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (9)

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  Reicherd got jobbed .......again, last night.
Posted by: Mattyman - 10-24-2025, 08:00 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (2)

https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1...8200181202


I wanna see how the NFL handles this  First time they looked bad, second time they look incompetent..

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  Tom P Puts A Bow On It
Posted by: JustInTime - 10-24-2025, 05:19 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (6)



Hopefully JJ McRosen proves me wrong.

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  Redmond Remains A Menace
Posted by: JustInTime - 10-24-2025, 01:25 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (10)



Now, did the stork just drop him at our doorstep?

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  Post-game thoughts vs Chargers
Posted by: supafreak84 - 10-24-2025, 01:08 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (15)

Hard not overreacting after a loss, but this was a beat down and this team is a complete mess right now. 

- We are not well coached and continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with penalties and big momentum killing penalties. We get a nice kickoff return to start the game....nope, penalty. We are one of the most penalized teams in the league and it's inexcusable. 

- The offense has been off all year long. Injuries certainly play a part, but damn, it's been ugly outside of a mopup game against the Bengals at home. I don't understand the playcalling at all. 

- I thought it was a mistake not hiring Jim Harbaugh when given the opportunity and nothing I saw last night moved that opinion. My opinion on KOC is waaay down right now and I don't see this offensive "guru" the media continually hypes him up to be. 

- Every team in the league is dealing with injuries, but good coaches and good front offices overcome them. Look at Tampa, San Francisco, and the Chargers. The Vikings are struggling because our depth is paper thin due to poor drafting and investing in older free agents that haven't panned out. 

- This defense was designed to play with a lead and we haven't led much this year. We are small along the front seven and they got the absolute shit knocked out of them last night by a physical Chargers running game. Flores wanted to be small, quick, slashing and attacking to the ball, but that style is only really affective when playing with a lead. We aren't physical or hold up at the point of attack. I expect Gibbs, Montgomery and company to dog walk this defense all day next week. I don't know how you fix this issue moving forward. We have to get bigger and younger along our front seven next offseason. I think the design is just flawed and they were expecting more out of Hargrave and Allen. They didn't help matters by trading away our best run defending lineman, Harrison Phillips, before the season. 

-  McCarthy was not good when he played and the worst thing that can happen for us heading into the offseason is to be "undetermined" still at the quarterback position. He has to play this second half of the season and play well. I hate to say it, but is he just going to be a guy who is going to be injury prone? It's certainly possible at this point. 

- If the Wilfs were smart (and they are not) and we end up picking top 5, top 10 (absolutely possible)....you send Kwesi/Grigson packing. I don't care about the extension. This is year 4 of the experiment, and if we end up spending millions upon millions in free agency and our draft picks suck...you cut your losses and move on. Bring in someone with actual scouting and personnel experience to run this ship and hire based on merit and not who Roger Goodell pushes you to hire based on race. I'm over this rosters shortcomings because of misevaluations in the draft and free agency.

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