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  Sam vs Teddy Revisited
Posted by: Riphawkins - 09-12-2017, 10:55 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (45)

I was listening to Chicago sports radio this afternoon and they were talking about teams around the NFL and who had a good weekend and who didn't. Some of the teams they mentioned have bad QB's and have had for a few years now. 
It got me to thinking about this whole Sam/Teddy debate that goes back and forth between some of the fans on this and other boards. No matter who you like in this debate, you have to admit it's good to have guys that are at the very least, decent QB's.
You may not like Sam, but he by no means will ever be a Christian Ponder, Tarvaris Jackson, or any of the 3rd rate QB's the Vikings had actually starting games for them. You may not like Teddy, but he's at the very least a guy you can get behind and have to love his upside if he can overcome the knee injury. 
Look what Houston has gone through over the years with a great defense and nobody to play QB for them. The 49ers signed not one, but two guys that the Bears didnt want anymore. The Bears for God's sake! 
I know everyone wants a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, or even Aaron Rodgers, but those guys are really few and far between. Be glad we have a guy who given time to throw can light up defenses, and a guy who with a little more time could be a guy who plays for a very long time.
I for one would rather be in this position than where this team used to be, searching for a half way decent QB every season and coming up short.

Also, the line played very well last night. It was good to see that progress has been made in that area.

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  Stefon Diggs
Posted by: MaroonBells - 09-12-2017, 07:02 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (9)

 Man, every time I see this kid play, I come away more impressed. Speed, routes, quickness, hands, toughness.  I think we're witnessing the emergence of a superstar. 

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  Pass Protection and the offensive line
Posted by: Vikesrock - 09-12-2017, 06:50 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (5)

Re-watching the game from last night, I have to wonder, just how much of our OL woes from the last few years was the failure of our RB's to consistently recognize and pickup blitzers and/or free runners on the pass rush.  Watching Cook stone a few guys last night and gave Bradford more time seemed to be a huge difference.  Don't get me wrong, the turnstile tackles we had previously didn't help much either, but how many times did you see the free runner flying at our QB and the RB no where to be found?  It seemed that not only could Cook block well, but he seemed to recognize it much better and be in the right position.  Thoughts?

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  Alvin Kamara
Posted by: Jor-El - 09-12-2017, 01:31 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

Wow, what a night, a rookie breaking records in his first NFL game and giving his team a spark in all three aspects of RB play!!

Oh...wait...that was Dalvin Cook??? Kamara only gained 18 yards (2.6ypc)? But Jon Gruden - in the 4th quarter! - was putting up pictures of one of those backs, and raving about his great future, and comparing him favorably to Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, and even HOFer Marshall Falk! Was he watching the same game as the rest of us??? Because on my screen, it sure sure looked like Cook was the big story and Kamara was just another guy.

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  Sam Cook "Change Gonna Come"
Posted by: Skodin - 09-12-2017, 12:40 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (3)

wow, very nice performance by the boys in Purple.  showed up big on a big stage.  pretty good balanced performance and with continued health (particularly on the OL) we can expect more.  

you can see the flashes of brilliance with Cook, the various threats in the passing game (wait until Floyd comes back to give a deep look in a 3 WR set).

With one game we can move past, a terrible last 11 games, a pathetic preseason, the ghost of AP, the ghost of Brett (a pocket passer), and the lack of a playmaking WR since the Freak.

we will be underdogs vs Pitt, going to be interesting to see the wrinkles of this week's D plus the double A gap look versus Pitt.  Give us a good performance Vikes in Pitt, no one is expecting a win so historically this is a game we steal.

A win next week, and we are where we belong, in the top rung of the NFC

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  Souhan: 'Slingin' Sam' opens up the Vikings passing game
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-12-2017, 11:52 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

If Sam Bradford remains healthy and plays this well, Teddy Bridgewater's comeback will result in him becoming a backup, or playing for another team.
Monday night, Checkdown Charlie became Slingin’ Sam.
Sam Bradford, who last year was as accurate and limited as a wind gauge in a living room, started the 2017 season by emphasizing the principle of verticality. When he’s vertical, so is the Vikings’ passing game.
In the Vikings’ season-opening 29-19 victory over the New Orleans Saints at U.S. Bank Stadium, Bradford personified a modern football scouting term: arm talent. A year after setting the NFL record for completion percentage, he showed that there is more to his game than short-pass accuracy and self-preservation, completing 27 of 32 passes for 346 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions while taking only one sack.
Bradford became the second Viking ever to pass for 300 yards, three touchdowns and an 80 percent completion percentage, joining Brett Favre. He completed seven passes for 15 yards or longer, two more than in any game last season, according to ESPN.
He produced a 143.0 passer rating, the highest of his career. After averaging 7 yards per throw in 2016, he averaged 10.5 on Monday.
http://www.startribune.com/vikings-first...443858063/


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  AP throwing shadows at Payton last night?
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-12-2017, 11:43 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (17)

What was he fuming about? Didn't see it at the stadium cause frankly I wasn't watching him on the sideline. Plus I'm on the Vikings side of the stadium. 

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  Surprised, Kinda Disappointed
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-12-2017, 11:36 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (18)

AP got boo'ed last night...It might have been right after his 9 yard run? But whenever it was, it was literally the 1st time the crowd had a chance to give him a warm welcome or a frosty one. 

Fans brought out the fangs lol! 

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  Vikings Prove Preseason Woes Meant Nothing
Posted by: Guest - 09-12-2017, 10:30 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (9)

http://vikefans.com/vikings-prove-presea...t-nothing/

Count me as the first person in line who was dramatically concerned about the inefficiency of the offense in four preseason games, and the leaky nature of the Viking starting defense during these “exhibition” games.
Sure, I had been at training camp, and the line looked better, and the defense looked as ball-hawking as ever.  Yet, I allowed myself to be sucked into the drama of meaningless preseason games to use as a barometer to predict the way the Vikings would play in 2017.
I could not have been more wrong.
That run defense that gave up alarming chunks of yardage during preseason, pretty much locked-down the Saints after Adrian Peterson’s first run of the game.  Brian Robison, who had not played hardly at all in the preseason, was a key to this effort, as he was used liberally throughout the game, and keep the right side of the Saint line in check.  Meanwhile, Linval Joseph was destroying the interior blockers of the Saint’s offense.  Often, you won’t see many stats for a Nose Tackle in the NFL, but Linval’s job is to eat up blockers, and he did just that.
Everson Griffen was a pest all night to Drew Brees and threw him off rhythm by making him constantly pay attention to where he was, and throw the ball just a split second too soon.  Was Brees suddenly old at 38?  Not really, when he had time, he looked just as sharp, its just that this defense didn’t let him settle-in and get comfortable at US Bank Stadium.
Eric Kendricks continues to show why he will no longer be a well-kept secret.  Active is the best word for Kendricks, as he plays downhill (as thought the field is tilted in his favor, and is just a little faster than everyone else when he’s on the field).  He was constantly in the Saint’s backfield, always first to a player after a short run or catch, and his a sure tackler.
Anthony Barr showed up last night, and showed some true fire in his game – let’s hope that continues.  Yes, Ben Gedeon was lost at times, but don’t be alarmed.  He is both a rookie, and a LB that will only be on the field about 20 plays a game when the Vikings are in a base defense (not a nickel or dime defense).
Trae Waynes was the leading tackler last night, and those that watched the game would not be surprised by that stat.  He was a sure tackler, with a few stops for no gain as soon as the ball was caught by a Saint receiver.
Indeed, the Viking Defense looked every bit the way they did in the first 5 games of 2016, and rendered a future Hall of Fame quarterback as just another signal caller.
On offense, it starts and ends with Sam Bradford.  For all the fans who clamor for Teddy (and they should, before his devastating knee injury that wiped out his 2016 season, he was maturing into a franchise-type QB), Sam is the real deal.  Does he throw short?  Sure he does, but so does every QB in the league when no one is open downfield.
The difference on opening night was, a group of (effectively) 5 new offensive line starters showed that given a reasonable amount of time in the pocket, Bradford is laser sharp.  He dropped passes into receiver at times on Monday night as though he were Tom Brady or even the opposing Brees.
Worried about his dink and dunk passes to RBs and TEs?   Well, 18 of his 27 completions were to his wideouts, and they accounted for 278 of Bradford’s 346 passing yards.   Didn’t like his 20 TDs and 5 INTs.  While an unreasonable projection, after one game, he is on a 48 TD and NO interception pace…that seems okay!
Jerick McKinnon looks at home as the 3rd down back, showing the spark and change of pace needed, while the defense worried about the Wide Receivers, and that is all with LaQuon Treadwell still not showing much of a threat to defenses.
While fans continue to appreciate Adam Thielen’s progress, few could expect him to just get better and better each week.  He has deceptive speed and is an elite route runner.   Meanwhile, the dropsies that plagued Stefon Diggs in the third preseason game against San Francisco where long gone on Monday night.  He abused the Saint secondary, and was constantly open, not by a little bit, but often his defender was 5 minutes away….by phone!
Calvin Cook finally showed fans why the team is so exciting about him.  He as great speed, terrific vision, and has that simple ability (that is not simple to learn or use) to make slight shifts in the hole to give him yardage.  He runs with power and authority.  He is no Adrian Peterson as a power runner in his prime, but his complete game may make Viking fans sometimes forget about #28.
And, never to be ignored was an offensive line, that was vastly improved, albeit just for one game.  Riff and Remmers held up well, while Easton looked every bit the part of an experienced guard.  Rookie Pat Elflein showed that the big national stage moment in his first-ever starting gig in the NFL was not at all too much for him.   He showed great athleticism in getting out front on screen passes (they are back!), and consistently made the right line calls.   This line gives the Vikings hope.
Sure, there were bad officiating calls last night, but for a change, those calls were not daggers to the Vikings.   Yes, we are a little worried about a missed extra point, as well as out depth on the Offensive Line.
But, for one big opening night, we are not complaining about our Offensive Coordinator, a short passing game, 3-and-outs on offense, the big penalty that turned the game, or our offensive line coach or poor line play.
For one glorious opening night, fans got to sit back and watch the complete plan of this Viking team unfold in front of their eyes in Mike Zimmer’s fourth year.  No injuries, and a dominating performance for the undefeated Minnesota Vikings.

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  Vaunted Saints O Held To ~270 Yards Until Garbage Time
Posted by: JustinTime18™ - 09-12-2017, 09:42 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (4)

And 4 FGs...Not a bad start...I'll have to take a second look, but it seems like Alexander had a good night...don't recall hearing his name called...

Steelers on the road are going to be a big test...let's keep some of that rust on Bell...

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