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  Reason For Worry…. Reason For Hope
Posted by: Guest - 08-28-2017, 11:57 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (48)

The Viking can't avoid the fan's talk of concern.   The third preseason game is the true "dress rehearsal" for the regular season, and the Vikings 1st teamers failed that test miserably last night versus the 49ers.

Sure, the team won, when half the players playing in the 4th quarter are those who will be selling insurance next week.   However, may of the problems that were evident last season are still here.


THE BAD
Offense:
Stefon Diggs had an unexpected case of the dropsies.   He was open, deeper on the field and the ball was placed perfectly.  He WILL catch those in the season.   The run game looked weak again, even with a more dynamic (at this stage of his career) RB in Dalvin Cook.   The offensive line still looks like a work in progress.  While Remmers and Reiff are improvements over last year's starters, they are not much better.   Reiff gets a bit of a pass, because this was his first action since week one of camp.  But, both were soundly beaten at times.  Easton looks decent, but is really a backup.  When 35 year old journeyman Joe Berger is counted on to start, that is a bad sign.  Boone still looks more talk than action on the field.  TJ Clemmings ( a very smart individual) remains completely outclassed and should be cut.  Willie Beavers seems a wasted pick - he is often out of position and looks lost.  Not bad, but it seems Jarius Wright's days are over.   He is decent, but the salary is simply too high for a bit player.   Please cut Moritz Bohringer - he is a waste of a roster spot.  He has improved very little and is quickly passed by rookies.

Defense:   I am hoping the result of last night's SF 49er offense continually carving our defense up was due to a bland scheme.  Even so, there was simply no pass rush at all, and the only guy who looked like he was ready to play on the 1st unit was Eric Kendricks.   Our pass defense was horrid, and our big-dollar CB Rhodes was out of place often, and Trae Waynes was alarmingly slow and out of position too.  That won't get it done, especially when they made Brian Hoyer look like an all-pro.   Anthony Barr just does not seem to be a factor at all.  Some worry about rookie Ben Gideon starting, but it is only 20-25 snaps a game, and he has looked good much of camp.  It is a tough spot for a rookie, but not that impactful when he will play 30% of the game.

Special Teams:
Rodney Adams and Jerrick McKinnon looked sharp on the return game.  Kicking game was uneven and the punters looked equally average.

The Coaching:
This team was not ready to play on Sunday Night Football, and put on an embarrassing 1st half for fans who paid over $100 per ticket to see them perform.  Sure, the team won, but Mike Zimmer is likely to be quite loud in displaying his displeasure in his team's fire and enthusiasm to play.  Could Zimmer not calling defensive alignments and plays be the reason the defense looked so bad last night?  Or was it just a bland game plan?

THE GOOD
Offense -  Pat Elflein looks solid and is likely your starting center, if not in game 1, then by game 5.   Danny Isadora "gets it" and will start soon too.  Both Rodney Adams and Stacy Coley look worthy of making this squad.    Both backup Qbs moved the ball, but even though he won the game Taylor Heinicke's passes floated at the end of their trajectory (especially when he passed off his back foot) and will often get picked in a regular season game when 1st teamers are playing against him.  That said, both moved the ball and showed some playing ability, and that is about as much as you can hope for in a backup in the NFL these days. Both will get lots of reps on Thursday.   Bucky Hodges also was of note, and is a big target who can get open.

Defense - Eric Kendricks always plays like the house is on fire - in a good way.  We saw much more intensity with the 2nd and 3rd units, with Jaleel Johnson, Jayron Kearse and few others sticking out.

The Blah - I have no idea why LaQuon Treadwell is running ahead of Rodney Adams and Stacey Coley.  Yes, he caught one last night, but it was a simple zone route.   He shows lost no flash.  The others can move the chains better.     Sam Bradford looked okay, and the Diggs drops did not help his yardage stats (he would have been 19 of 21 for 180+ yards had he caught them), but nothing spectacular.


If the Vikings team that played last night, shows up for the regular season, this is a 5-11 or 6-10 team.  There is way too much work to still be done with just 10 days till opening night vs New Orleans.  As is, Drew Brees will have a field day with this team.   Zimmer has these 10 days to ensure that does not happen.

My GUT CALL?   This is an 8-8 team.  With some good futune and improvement in the line and run game, this Viking squad is 10-6.  With injuries or performances like Sunday night by the starters and it could be a long year.   Glad opening day in not tomorrow!

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  Now, now...Everyone settle down
Posted by: purplefaithful - 08-28-2017, 11:47 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (22)

Remember that from Meathead lol!

Man, I had texts last night from people telling me to sell my season tix, the team sucks.

C'mon, 3 pts in 12 pre-season drives from the 1st team offense doesn't stoke your confidence?


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  They look like shit
Posted by: dukes - 08-28-2017, 10:02 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (35)

All those who still think the Vikings can win the Super Bowl this year raise your hands. All of you who have risen your hands are either a liar or did not see last nights game.
Never mind the score. Look at the 14-0 deficit by the starting teams. Adrian Peterson is going to shred the Viking run defense and Brees is going to do the same with the pass defense. Even though it's preseason and everything is vanilla and hidden, a tackle is still a tackle. A pass is still a pass. A catch is still a catch. A block is still a block. A hole is still a hole. The starters did none of these things. They looked flat and tired.
It seems to be the same old offense with the one back set and the defense still commits to the run blitz to the quarterback and stuffs the play. It's year 4 of Zimmer and if the Vikings implode in 2017, it's time to start thinking that Zimmer's scheme is not working and a change should come forthright.
The 58 yard field goal was the high light of the game, but based on the way the ball curved one could tell that eventually he would do a Blair Walsh and miss. It happened on the 47 yard try.
I would rather be a pessimist and be surprised then an optimist and be disappointed. 




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  Vanguard83 Goes Swimming and Misses Heineke Magic
Posted by: ThunderGod - 08-28-2017, 02:38 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (3)

=) Vanguard, I told you they would come back and it would be one of the greatest come backs in Viking history.   Ha! Ha!
Dumb game to begin with but great finish to see Heineke drive the team down the field, score, and go for two.
 

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  OK--so NOW who do you cut?
Posted by: Caactorvike - 08-28-2017, 02:36 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (28)

Here are a few questions rolling around in my head post 49ers game.

Do we keep 4 TEs?-- If so,

Who do we keep at WR? Who would you cut?

Do we keep Bowers on the 53?

Do we keep 3 QBs?  Or 2, and make a trade for Heineke?

Keep Jleel Johnson at the 3tech?  bye bye Datone?

there are going to be some TOUGH decisions coming up.

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  Vikings WIN!!!!! Super Bowl BOUND BABY!!!
Posted by: Bezerker88 - 08-28-2017, 02:24 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (1)


SKOL!!!!!!   BABY!  I knew they'd win all night....  never doubted it. 

Well,,, except those other 59 minutes and 59 seconds when I did.....  :p  


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  Remmers is getting destroyed
Posted by: StickyBun - 08-27-2017, 11:23 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (41)

Albert Breer‏Verified account @AlbertBreer  3m3 minutes ago

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Vikings offensive line = What the team's season hinges on.
Remmers is the weakest link on a suspect line. 
 

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  Update: OLB Ben Gedeon getting the start tonight
Posted by: StickyBun - 08-27-2017, 09:45 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

Pretty big for the rookie. The staff likes this guy. He does well tonight, I think he wins the job. 

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  Watching Tonights Viking 49ers Game
Posted by: ThunderGod - 08-27-2017, 04:54 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (6)

https://thevikingage.com/2017/08/25/watc...ream-info/

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  Vikings RB Murray ready for action, 5 months after surgery
Posted by: purplefaithful - 08-27-2017, 02:43 PM - Forum: The Longship - No Replies

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) The results of the exhibition itself will be rendered meaningless for the Minnesota Vikings as soon as the weekend is over.
For Latavius Murray, his mere participation is what matters most.
More than five months after surgery on his right ankle, six days after the running back signed with the Vikings as a free agent, Murray will finally be free to carry the ball for his new team in a game situation.
”I’m just happy that I’ll be out there. So we’ll see how the workload goes,” Murray said after practice on Friday afternoon.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/vikin...ery-082517

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