If you pick any group, you're going to find some people that don't represent the group well.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
One of the nails in the coffin of my belief in organized religion involved both the politicizing and the (literally) screaming hypocrisy of the most visible religious figures everywhere.
Similarly, my belief in the GOP died a brutal death over the same things...often involving exactly the same people.
(don't celebrate, dnc'ers, as I consider your party to be absolutely nothing but lies, power-mongering, and...nothing of substance, whatsoever)
When GOP candidate/representative x would invoke both bible verses AND exclusionary policies regarding women, the LGBTQ citizens, and demanding to protect unborn babies while cutting funding for education/programs for children...I knew that I not only couldn't be part of that spineless hypocrisy, I knew that I wanted to be among those flicking matches at that political pile of filth.
Man, not God, destroyed my faith in both churches and statespeople alike.
Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew.
This is no different than what "you guys" are mad at Frankly Graham for doing: making Jesus into some kind of political figure... and completely ignoring / missing His true purpose in coming.
Quote: @pumpf said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew.
This is no different than what "you guys" are mad at Frankly Graham for doing: making Jesus into some kind of political figure... and completely ignoring / missing His true purpose in coming.
He is FAR from the only one.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew.
^^ That quote/meme is attributed to either from John Fugelsang (late nite comedy writer), or Miley Cyrus (late nite slut  )
So edgy. So woke.
Quote: @Zanary said:
Man, not God, destroyed my faith in both churches and statespeople alike.
Then you should find a new church: one that preaches Christ crucified, rather than man-made stuff.
Of course, your faith should've been in Him in the first place, not in the churches, themselves.
Churches are filled with hypocritical sinners- just like the halls of Congress. But going to Congress isn't the solution to that problem; in fact, it (probably) just exacerbates the problem.
On the other hand, when Christians go to church, it isn't because they are good people... or better than anyone else. It is because they know that they are NOT better than anyone else... and certainly not "good" (by their own efforts or merits) enough for God. But God invites them to come into His presence and receive His gifts of forgiveness, life, renewal... and- yes- even fellowship with other sinner/saints. I don't know what happened in your past to turn you away from "church"... but if that church was the problem, then go find another church (one that preaches Christ crucified, not human doctrines).
You wouldn't stop going to the doctor, just because one (or two) doctors were jerks who misdiagnosed your health issues. You'd look for a good doctor, who would be able to give you what you need. Likewise, God tells us in His Word that we need (for our sake more than anything) to worship Him- together, in the company of other sinner/saints. So find the church that preaches and practices God's Word. They're out there.
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Jesus was a radical nonviolent revolutionary who hung around with lepers hookers and crooks; wasn't American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5); but was never anti-gay, never mentioned abortion or birth control, never called the poor lazy, never justified torture, never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a copay; and was a long-haired brown-skinned homeless community-organizing anti-slut-shaming Middle Eastern Jew.
^^ That quote/meme is attributed to either from John Fugelsang (late nite comedy writer), or Miley Cyrus (late nite slut )
So edgy. So woke.
What part of it is incorrect?
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