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Will the Vikings trade down?
#21
(Yesterday, 04:58 PM)Vikesrock Wrote: I agree to an extent with the tiers.  I would like to see, if they trade down, to gather draft capital for the 27 draft.  Rather then a 2nd to go from 18 to 31, can we get a 1st next year instead?  I am no draftnik, but everyone I read says 27 is the monster draft of the decade.  So load em up.  If you have a couple of 1st's can you turn that in to Arch Manning if you need to?

Oh hellfire, I don't even want to think about that. No I think the Vikings have a win-now roster, and I think they agree. It would be hard to see them passing on impact talent this year to gift picks to the next GM.
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#22
(Yesterday, 10:36 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Too hard to predict ahead of time for me. Ive watched/listened to enough of these drafts to know what I dont want in a trade-down..

This one hurt in 1981:

The Vikings traded their 1st round pick (18th overall) to the Baltimore Colts for multiple picks (39th, 52nd, and 123rd overall).
  • 2nd Round (39th overall): Mardye McDole, WR, Mississippi State
  • 2nd Round (45th overall): Robin Sendlein, LB, Texas
  • 2nd Round (52nd overall): Jarvis Redwine, RB, Nebraska

This was also they draft they traded Foreman to the Pats ( pick was T. Irwin) and drafted  Whiskey Wade Wilson in the 8th rd
Pick #39 was their own. Picks 45 and 52, plus a 5th was what they got from Baltimore. In April 1980 they traded Foreman to New England for a 1981 3rd rounder.
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(Yesterday, 05:18 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: Oh hellfire, I don't even want to think about that. No I think the Vikings have a win-now roster, and I think they agree. It would be hard to see them passing on impact talent this year to gift picks to the next GM.

I think if the Vikings felt like they had a win-now roster, they would have ponied up a little bit of money in free agency.  

For me, I think they don't feel confident enough in their QBs to be win now.  I do agree that they won't be trading for future picks, because I do think that they need to get better now more than thinking long term.

Also, I'm not convinced that many teams will be quick to dole out 2027 firsts for any player near where we will be.
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#24
I think if you are following this draft and where things may start to play out, I think you trade back at this point. Someone mentioned to get us a 2nd. That would be ideal for this team with how it sits right now. Would rather have more day 2 picks and get as many as you can. It builds the team with very talented younger players. Plus, at 18 there isn't a great selection for need, as I feel Oregon's work out machine will be gone. Trade back and pick one of your DTs that you let go or grab a S or CB. Or grab AJ Haulcy in round 2 and DT round 1. Then Connor Lew with your second 2nd rounder. If you found that deal that you would net a 2nd, the Vikings will take that all day long, even without a GM.


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#25
(Yesterday, 01:57 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Dont forget about our friends in Motown who pick 17:

Brian Branch (torn Achilles)
Kerby Joseph (knee) 

Unless the Vikings get a "godfather" type offer or they really believe the later S's are as good? 

Draft Theineman at 18 and call it a day

I don't think Thieneman makes it to 18. Cross your fingers EMW does.
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(Yesterday, 07:23 PM)medaille Wrote: I think if the Vikings felt like they had a win-now roster, they would have ponied up a little bit of money in free agency.  

For me, I think they don't feel confident enough in their QBs to be win now.  I do agree that they won't be trading for future picks, because I do think that they need to get better now more than thinking long term.

Also, I'm not convinced that many teams will be quick to dole out 2027 firsts for any player near where we will be.

On who? Who were the prize free agents we were clamoring for but didn’t pursue? This was not a robust free agent class for our needs. I think the one exception was at running back, where we reportedly made a competitive offer to Etienne but he chose to say closer to his home in the Bayou. Once he signed in NOLA, Vikings re-signed Aaron Jones and turned their attention to the draft to fill that need.

Could they have bolstered their IDL? Maybe. But at what cost? We still have $22M in Allen and Hargrave money on our books, not to mention the $17M cap hit going to a very average Will Fries. No, this was always going to be a “get right” offseason where we try to mitigate some of last season’s free agency failures.
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#27
(9 hours ago)MaroonBells Wrote: On who? Who were the prize free agents we were clamoring for but didn’t pursue? This was not a robust free agent class for our needs. I think the one exception was at running back, where we reportedly made a competitive offer to Etienne but he chose to say closer to his home in the Bayou. Once he signed in NOLA, Vikings re-signed Aaron Jones and turned their attention to the draft to fill that need.

Could they have bolstered their IDL? Maybe. But at what cost? We still have $22M in Allen and Hargrave money on our books, not to mention the $17M cap hit going to a very average Will Fries. No, this was always going to be a “get right” offseason where we try to mitigate some of last season’s free agency failures.

Signing a vet WR to compete with Felton for WR3 would've been a nice add & wouldn't have cost too much.
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#28


Reid has 11 first round grades. He’s at least a handful light, but those 1/2 and 2 round grades is a big fat band of prospects.
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 
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#29
(6 hours ago)JustInTime Wrote:

Reid has 11 first round grades. He’s at least a handful light, but those 1/2 and 2 round grades is a big fat band of prospects.

Banks at 46. Too many issues for 18, but he's a sprint to the podium type at 49 for me.
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#30
My $ is on Faulk/Thieneman if they stick or Woods/EMW if they trade down...

Not a huge need today, but I sure wish there was a way to get Ponds on the team. He's a dawg and will get the others on that side of the ball barking...

Heart and soul of that IU Defense

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 
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