SI.com: Edmonds expect Murray to have a huge year in Minnesota

[AGRforever]

McCarthy starting by week 6. Write it down

That’s bold.  Via injury or play?

[Zanary]

Come on Sticky, was it over when the German’s invaded Pearl Harbor?    This story has not been written yet, buckle up Vike fans…! 

Huge style point for the movie referece...!

[supafreak84]

That’s bold.  Via injury or play?

Likely injury, but OConnell is in job saving mode, so if the combo of his offense and Murray's style of play don't mesh...I think it's going to be evident real early.

[Vikesrock]

I'm not either.....but I'm personally not going to spend the offseason bagging on something that might work big time because I'm doubtful as a fan. I try and post positive stories without commentary, I'm moving on. If shit hits the fan, there'll be plenty of time to complain during football season. If there's someone on this board more disappointed than I about the direction they are going with McCarthy, raise your hand (looking.....not seeing any hands)....but I recognize that Murray is talented and maybe KOC gets him to a higher plane of play. That's my hope. But have plenty of doubts. But the wins have to come with this strategy....and if the wins come, I won't care if it was my Mom they benched.

Raising hand!

[StickierBuns]

Come on Sticky, was it over when the German’s invaded Pearl Harbor?    This story has not been written yet, buckle up Vike fans…! 

I've got my toga ready....

[MaroonBells]

Much as I have conflicting thoughts about JJM and Murray being in the QB room this year, I think I would have been more upset at the Vikings if they didnt bring Murray in for this 1 year trial dance.

Especially after losing Darnold and Jones just a year ago and with so many questions on #9. Plus the value aspect was off the measurables chart all together.

I think we have a chance to see a Murray who is much better than what AZ got. Let's see how this goes and fingers/toes crossed.

We all deserve a playoff run and a SB win in our lifetimes.

But was he even that bad in Arizona?

Seems unlikely, but set’s just say for argument’s sake that working in a KOC offense and throwing to the likes of Jefferson and Addison, with a much better line and defense does nothing at all for Murray and we get exactly who he was in the desert. This is the kind of upgrade at QB that would represent.

2025 Vikings QB room:
2834 yards, 18 TDs, 21 INTs, 72 passer rating, 219 yards rushing and 3 TDs

Kyler Murray’s 17-game average:
4000 yards, 24 TDs, 11 INTs, 92 passer rating, 624 yards rushing and 6 TDs

[StickierBuns]

But was he even that bad in Arizona?

Seems unlikely, but set’s just say for argument’s sake that working in a KOC offense and throwing to the likes of Jefferson and Addison, with a much better line and defense does nothing at all for Murray and we get exactly who he was in the desert. This is the kind of upgrade at QB that would represent.

2025 Vikings QB room:
2834 yards, 18 TDs, 21 INTs, 72 passer rating, 219 yards rushing and 3 TDs

Kyler Murray’s 17-game average:
4000 yards, 24 TDs, 11 INTs, 92 passer rating, 624 yards rushing and 6 TDs

These comparisons are well and good, but if you're going to baseline Murray's averages and then use one season of last year's QB room, then this team should win 11 or 12 games for sure using that logic. For sure. Because I don't know about everyone else, but if the team only wins 8 or 9 games with Murray, this whole experiment is complete garbage and you've kicked JJM's development can WAY down the road or outright given up on him for nothing. Its all about the potential wins for this fan, I could care less if Murray, Jefferson, etc. have much better stats than last year. We're trying to win a Superbowl, not appease the players with better personal production but overall team mediocrity from a wins and losses perspective. The assumption with your stats is that McCarthy won't improve this offseason/training camp with more time and reps. Is it nuts to think the Vikings could achieve 11 wins with McCarthy this season? Doesn't seem like that big of a stretch if you factor in even incremental improvement, just sayin'.

Fingers crossed its the right strategy.

[MaroonBells]

These comparisons are well and good, but if you're going to baseline Murray's averages and then use one season of last year's QB room, then this team should win 11 or 12 games for sure using that logic. For sure. Because I don't know about everyone else, but if the team only wins 8 or 9 games with Murray, this whole experiment is complete garbage and you've kicked JJM's development can WAY down the road or outright given up on him for nothing. Its all about the potential wins for this fan, I could care less if Murray, Jefferson, etc. have much better stats than last year. We're trying to win a Superbowl, not appease the players with better personal production but overall team mediocrity from a wins and losses perspective. The assumption with your stats is that McCarthy won't improve this offseason/training camp with more time and reps. Is it nuts to think the Vikings could achieve 11 wins with McCarthy this season? Doesn't seem like that big of a stretch if you factor in even incremental improvement, just sayin'.

Fingers crossed its the right strategy.

OK so given the numbers, or even ignoring them, who do you think gives us a better chance of winning the Super Bowl? I think the answer to that right now is obvious. But things could change. There are two big asterisks: A, will KOC be successful in matching Murray to scheme and vice versa? And B, how much will JJ improve? 

Ideally, they both improve considerably and we have two valuable assets in our QB room. If neither happens, we’re looking at taking a QB in the 2027 draft with some added draft capital.