Strib: JJM needs support more than competition

[medaille]

I'm not sure in what parallel NFL universe this would ever, ever happen. IMO its makes little sense in so many ways.

What doesn't make sense to you?

[StickierBuns]

What doesn't make sense to you?

Your whole concept around how NFL teams should handle the QB position. And what you'd like the team to do at the QB position this year: JJM, AR and Derek Carr, lol? Where are the reps coming from? More reps, better play....but you want to split them up. The reason the HC spends 99% of his time during the regular season with QB1 is because he's trying to win ball games...and his focus has to be on the guy that's starting because there's a whole gameplan to learn week to week against different opponents. I mean, you have to realize this right?

[medaille]

Your whole concept around how NFL teams should handle the QB position. And what you'd like the team to do at the QB position this year: JJM, AR and Derek Carr, lol? Where are the reps coming from? More reps, better play....but you want to split them up. The reason the HC spends 99% of his time during the regular season with QB1 is because he's trying to win ball games...and his focus has to be on the guy that's starting because there's a whole gameplan to learn week to week against different opponents. I mean, you have to realize this right?

It sounds like what you are saying is that having depth is bad, because more depth means your starters play less good.

The limitation isn’t in how many midweek reps are available.  The limitation is that borderline QB starters make $20-30M a year and teams don’t want to pay that for a backup usually, and borderline QB starters don’t want to waste a season of their career being a backup when they could be starting for a team that has zero QB options.

I don’t think that having JJM/Vet Backup/Brosmer is that much different than JJM/Vet Backup/Richardson in terms of how many reps QB1/QB2/QB3 gets midweek during the season, except your QB3 just has a higher ceiling and costs more.  Like we brought Daniel Jones in house and it didn’t screw up our ability to give Darnold enough reps and Daniel Jones got enough out of the deal to make it worth coming here.

[Vanguard83]

Some great posts in this thread, but I think we can agree - More reps, RB, C.

It's not JJM's skillset I'm worried about (as mentioned once KOC got out of his "head / mechanics" and let the kid loose)it's his durability. I'm not sure he can last a full season. That said, not every pitch needs to be a fastball.
Also, I think his hype gets in the way of his head. Diving head first and driving into GB's backups puts a huge target on you.
Just run the plays, grab the tablet and LEARN.

[greediron]

Some great posts in this thread, but I think we can agree - More reps, RB, C.

It's not JJM's skillset I'm worried about (as mentioned once KOC got out of his "head / mechanics" and let the kid loose)it's his durability. I'm not sure he can last a full season. That said, not every pitch needs to be a fastball.
Also, I think his hype gets in the way of his head. Diving head first and driving into GB's backups puts a huge target on you.
Just run the plays, grab the tablet and LEARN.

Yeah, the "when" to apply the intensity is something he has to learn.  I am not too worried about the durability.  Some of it is just fluke IMO.  I think experience is the biggest factor, slow down a bit, let the plays happen.

[StickierBuns]

I am not too worried about the durability.  Some of it is just fluke IMO.  I think experience is the biggest factor, slow down a bit, let the plays happen.

Agreed.

Looks like Schefty is saying Minnesota wants Wentz back.....I think at this point, Silly Season has every available QB in Minnesota.

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It sounds like what you are saying is that having depth is bad, because more depth means your starters play less good.

The limitation isn’t in how many midweek reps are available.  The limitation is that borderline QB starters make $20-30M a year and teams don’t want to pay that for a backup usually, and borderline QB starters don’t want to waste a season of their career being a backup when they could be starting for a team that has zero QB options.

I don’t think that having JJM/Vet Backup/Brosmer is that much different than JJM/Vet Backup/Richardson in terms of how many reps QB1/QB2/QB3 gets midweek during the season, except your QB3 just has a higher ceiling and costs more.  Like we brought Daniel Jones in house and it didn’t screw up our ability to give Darnold enough reps and Daniel Jones got enough out of the deal to make it worth coming here.

I mean, I guess anything is possible? But this is highly unlikely IMO. I mean, if they keep Wentz does that even count, lol. I guess we'll know soon.

[MaroonBells]

Looks like Schefty is saying Minnesota wants Wentz back.....I think at this point, Silly Season has every available QB in Minnesota.

I don't think this means much, and it certainly doesn't mean that Wentz is our competition QB. Sure, bring him to camp. Bring back Brosmer, Wolford and Rypien too. I'd actually feel pretty good about having Wentz as our QB3. I don't think he's going anywhere else.

[purplefaithful]

Agreed.

Looks like Schefty is saying Minnesota wants Wentz back.....I think at this point, Silly Season has every available QB in Minnesota.

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No, F no....Not as QB2

[medaille]

If Wentz was the guy, would we even be having this discussion that we need more competition?

Is more competition, Wentz + Richardson? Kind of feels like upgrading the veteran backup is more what competition is not bringing in a QB3 to develop alongside JJM.