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(02-02-2026, 03:42 PM)Waterboy Wrote: Purple Daily speculated that a big part of the problem is that the Wilf's still are absentee residing in New Jersey primarily and running their other businesses. I think there is some validity to them being a little clueless about the culture seeing as they're largely not there. I think they're great owners in some way, but I think they need more presence on site. At this point, you lean on your long tenured scouts and coaches and see what you can piece together this next draft. I gotta believe they have Paton in their plans moving forward after next year.
No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
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(02-02-2026, 06:33 PM)Ikmillard Wrote: No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
Not necessarily disagreeing but I’m not following either. I consider Kwesi taking maternity leave as outright bs, but am not aware how Paton plays into that or that the Vikes have a country club atmosphere. I know they are rated very highly by the players? That could be a good thing but I can also understand how that could be bad. Just interested in your thoughts, not questioning their validity.
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(02-02-2026, 06:33 PM)kmillard Wrote: No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
Let me see if I am following. You think the Vikings have some Country Club atmosphere. That would have made Kwesi the odd man out? Because hes?.... Not seeing where you are going with this. Instead of seeing his MANY downfalls throughout his time here, his lack of understanding or listening for that matter, not taking advice from the personnel department, just to name a few things. Kwesi wasn't well liked behind the scenes, because of his actions and how he handled things, or lack thereof in this situation. You realize the Wilfs aren't... Never mind. Carry on
Country Club lol. Just say what you really want to say. It's absolutely completely wrong, but hey, do your thing, boo boo.
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(02-03-2026, 07:23 AM)Canthony Wrote: Let me see if I am following. You think the Vikings have some Country Club atmosphere. That would have made Kwesi the odd man out? Because hes?.... Not seeing where you are going with this. Instead of seeing his MANY downfalls throughout his time here, his lack of understanding or listening for that matter, not taking advice from the personnel department, just to name a few things. Kwesi wasn't well liked behind the scenes, because of his actions and how he handled things, or lack thereof in this situation. You realize the Wilfs aren't... Never mind. Carry on
Country Club lol. Just say what you really want to say. It's absolutely completely wrong, but hey, do your thing, boo boo. CA, I think you are reading meaning in to words that weren't intended by the poster. I think he meant a closed network of like minded individuals, in this case football people not embracing the non football people, or something to similar. I didnt read anything more into those comments than simply that.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(02-03-2026, 08:23 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: CA, I think you are reading meaning in to words that weren't intended by the poster. I think he meant a closed network of like minded individuals, in this case football people not embracing the non football people, or something to similar. I didnt read anything more into those comments than simply that.
Yeah that is really looking for something that wasn't there. By atmosphere, it is more a carry over of those who have been there since Speilman which is odd as when Kwesi was hired, most NEW Gm's bring in their own staff and scouts. Kwesi never did or was allowed to do that. I want someone who gets hired and brings his own group in. I doubt Grigson hangs around much longer as he has already been passed over for Brez.
Andrew Miller pushed the hardest for Kwesi to be hired and I can imagine that his seat is feeling a little warm.
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Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
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(02-03-2026, 07:57 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
Great post https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7MHv1aLG2...ture=share
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(02-03-2026, 07:57 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
Yes, Kwesi made the move up to take Dallas Turner. There was never any question about that. His philosophy at the time—a clear shift from 2022—was that elite players drive success. In other words, you’re better off with one Dallas Turner than three Chris Braswells. I don't disagree with that. But I think it depends on what your roster looks like and where you're at in your window.
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At the start of today’s 10 things to know, let’s take a more detailed look at how specific draft decisions have left the Vikings where they are now (and left Adofo-Mensah out of a job):
- In many ways, Adofo-Mensah chased his bad 2022 draft, the first of his tenure, for the entirety of his time in Minnesota. Specifically, the Vikings received very little value from picks in the secondary: First-round pick Lewis Cine, second-round pick Andrew Booth Jr. and fourth-round pick Akayleb Evans. Combined with 2023 third-round pick Mekhi Blackmon, who was shipped to Indianapolis for a sixth-round pick after falling out of favor here, misses on corners in particular have caused the Vikings to fill out their secondary with free agents.
- Quarterback is obvious. Though the jury is still out on J.J. McCarthy, his 2025 debut after a season-ending injury in 2024 was not encouraging. His struggles figure to lead the Vikings into the free agent QB market this offseason, tying up precious resources the team had hoped to be able to spend elsewhere. Let’s not forget that Adofo-Mensah dealt a fourth- and fifth-round pick (while getting back a sixth) to move up one spot from No. 11 to No. 10 in 2024 to make sure the Vikings got McCarthy.
- Let’s also look at fellow 2024 first-round pick Dallas Turner. He started to come on in 2025 and looks like an impact player. But the Vikings essentially moved up twice to get him. The first was a trade to acquire the No. 23 pick in case they could move up even higher to draft a QB. After landing on McCarthy, Adofo-Mensah moved up again to No. 17 to get Turner. The total cost of moving up to No. 17 (while also getting a seventh-round pick): Two second-round picks, a third, a fourth, a fifth and a sixth. That’s a lot of roster holes that could have been filled, as Seattle has shown with deft drafting.
- Revisiting 2022, the Vikings also took guard Ed Ingram in the second round. He struggled here before being traded to Houston, where he had a much better 2025 season. Missing on Ingram (or at least not being able to develop him) led the Vikings back into the interior offensive line for 2025 first-round pick Donovan Jackson in addition to signing free agent Will Fries. While Jackson looks like a solid player, the Vikings could have used that pick on another area of need if Ingram had worked out.
- The Vikings made a desperation trade for Adam Thielen before the start of the 2025 season, getting him from Carolina for essentially the value of a fourth-round pick. He had little impact before being let go midseason, and the move wouldn’t have been necessary if 2025 third-round pick Tai Felton had filled a larger role.
In short, the Vikings have traded away a lot of draft capital to plug holes or to make big swings that haven’t yet paid off. And the picks they have made in the last four years haven’t given them nearly enough impact.
That leaves the Vikings in a precarious position this offseason: Needing to shed tens of millions of dollars to become salary cap compliant as a result of heavy free agent spending ... while still needing to fill a lot of roster holes to be competitive in 2026.
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