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QB option nobody is talking about...
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https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/onsi/news/houston-texans-cj-stroud-linked-early-trade-speculation


There's some real talk in Houston on if they want to pony up a big contract extension with Stroud reaching his contract year or if they want to even pick up his 5th year option at all. If that's the case, they could be open to trade options and the Vikings are in the market. 

Thoughts on Stroud? Personally I really like him. I'm not sure what the Texans would do at the position if they traded him. I'd imagine trade compensation would likely be McCarthy, first round pick in 2026 (18th), and first round pick in 2027, or something in that range.
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Scares me..He hasn't had much help from his OL, but he hasn't progressed as much as you'd like to see if you're a Tx fan.

If they're looking to trade him?
1). They're looking to move on for a reason
2). This would be a full on move from JJM, which I think is premature at this point.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 
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(9 hours ago)supafreak84 Wrote: https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/onsi/news/houston-texans-cj-stroud-linked-early-trade-speculation


There's some real talk in Houston on if they want to pony up a big contract extension with Stroud reaching his contract year or if they want to even pick up his 5th year option at all. If that's the case, they could be open to trade options and the Vikings are in the market. 

Thoughts on Stroud? Personally I really like him. I'm not sure what the Texans would do at the position if they traded him. I'd imagine trade compensation would likely be McCarthy, first round pick in 2026 (18th), and first round pick in 2027, or something in that range.

If the Texans are willing to get rid of him, why would we want him for 2 first round picks and a top 10 drafted QB and then pay him upper mid QB money?

I’d trade a first for Stroud, sign his 5th year option, let him compete for 2026, and then trade JJM or Stroud post 2026. I wouldn't be blindly committing to someone else's garbage though and getting rid of JJM.
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why? so we could have 2 young QBs that we arent fully committing to?

we have to give JJM every chance in 26, because its what you do unless you see nothing, and we have seen something to this point. brining in a young starter is just pissing away JJM and picks used to draft him. to soon IMO.
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(9 hours ago)medaille Wrote: If the Texans are willing to get rid of him, why would we want him for 2 first round picks and a top 10 drafted QB and then pay him upper mid QB money?

I’d trade a first for Stroud, sign his 5th year option, let him compete for 2026, and then trade JJM or Stroud post 2026. I wouldn't be blindly committing to someone else's garbage though and getting rid of JJM.

It all depends on OConnell and what he truly thinks about McCarthy for this upcoming season (where his job might be on the line) and into the future. Nobody knows, but all indications are that they will explore all options to upgrade the position. If he doesn't trust McCarthy, then all options are on the table with him essentially now calling the shots on personnel. Stroud fits the KOC offense better as a more polished pocket passer that can make all the throws. To me, if this was a realistic possibility, it's option 1A..
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KOC reportedly loved Stroud coming out so if he were available, I think we'd call to see what it would take.

We can offer a much better offensive system, we have premier weapons to throw to, and a better OL. It's not hard to imagine his statistical production going up just like it did with Cousins, Darnold, etc.

All depends on how the team views JJ McCarthy and his potential growth.
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And on this topic, Davis Mills is probably one of the better backup QB's in the league. Very Sam Darnold'ish. I could see there being a discussion on can they win with Mills, while playing great defense and running the football? Not paying Stroud would give them roster flexibility long term. If they wanted McCarthy, that would give them another option along with the draft compensation in a Stroud trade. Lots of ways to look at a Stroud trade to the Vikings making sense for both teams
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I'll take things that will never happen for $1000, Alex. 

The Texans would be fools for trading Stroud. And what? Give the job to Davis Mills? Or move on to the QB craps table known as the NFL draft? Ridiculous. He may not have played well in his last game, but I can think of a few good QBs who didn't play well in a game or two or ten. One of them just won the Super Bowl. 

CJ's 24 years old, won rookie of the year and has taken his team to the playoffs in each of his first three seasons. Yeah, let's trade THAT guy for what's behind door number 3.
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(8 hours ago)MaroonBells Wrote: I'll take things that will never happen for $1000, Alex. 

The Texans would be fools for trading Stroud. And what? Give the job to Davis Mills? Or move on to the QB craps table known as the NFL draft? Ridiculous. He may not have played well in his last game, but I can think of a few good QBs who didn't play well in a game or two or ten. One of them just won the Super Bowl. 

CJ's 24 years old, won rookie of the year and has taken his team to the playoffs in each of his first three seasons. Yeah, let's trade THAT guy for what's behind door number 3.

Stranger things my friend, stranger things...

Anybody have Parsons getting traded last offseason? It really all boils down to do the Texans see the continued upside with Stroud, for the contract amount it will take to retain him while also trying to retain Nico Collins, Derek Stingley, Will Anderson, etc on contract extensions? It's a murky situation where they won't be able to keep everybody, and as stated, Stroud has left a lot to be desired in playoff games
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#10
The 2026 NFL draft class isn't particularly strong overall, and it is extremely thin at quarterback. After presumed first selection Fernando Mendoza (Heisman winner, national champion at Indiana and Raiders QB in a little under three months), the best options are Alabama's Ty Simpson and ... probably LSU's Garrett Nussmeier? This class might play out like 2022, when only one quarterback went in Round 1 (Kenny Pickett, No. 20) and only four went in the first two days.

There are some names available in the veteran quarterback market, but those names aren't very exciting.

While last offseason included free agent quarterbacks such as (now-Super Bowl champion) Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones and Aaron Rodgers, this offseason's pool includes ... well, Daniel Jones (off an Achilles injury) and Aaron Rodgers (one year older).

Because Jones and Rodgers are both strongly suspected to stay with their current teams, the biggest contract might fall to Packers backup and quality spot starter Malik Willis. Or could the Falcons' Kirk Cousins get one more solid contract after Atlanta releases him before the new league year begins March 11?

If the draft and the free agent market are thin, what is a quarterback-needy team to do? Win in the margins. While this isn't the offseason for stacking quarterbacks on a big board or pick-your-poison free agent targets, the smart teams with financial flexibility will still have the ability to attack the veteran quarterback trade market. And two names stand out above the rest: Arizona's Kyler Murray and Miami's Tua Tagovailoa. (San Francisco backup Mac Jones reportedly will not be traded this offseason.)

When Murray and Tagovailoa are the offseason's best options, it isn't a great QB offseason. But both are workable under the right conditions, and below them, there are plenty of veteran journeymen or low-risk gambles teams will consider at the position. Quarterback movement is inevitable, so let's look at all of the candidates for changing teams, as well as the teams in the market for their services.

Malik Willis
K. Cousins
Will Levis
Jason Milroe
Tanner McKee
Davis Mills
Anthony Richardson Sr
Spencer Rattler
Derek Carr

Minnesota Vikings

Minnesota will absolutely bring in competition for J.J. McCarthy, as it reportedly tried to do last season with Rodgers. Cousins is the obvious choice because he has scheme familiarity from his time in Minnesota as coach Kevin O'Connell's starter. But O'Connell is a big believer in quarterback development, and I would not be surprised if he wants to go for a younger player to challenge McCarthy's seat not just in 2026 but also beyond. Every toolsy young passer who can operate from the pocket (Tanner McKee, Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, etc.) is on my radar for a surprise Vikings trade.

(It will probably just be Cousins, though, let's be honest.)

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Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 
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