So long Speedy???

[StickierBuns]

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He doesn't have Addison's talent, it was a mistake.  As for grousing about the Vikings, someone has to be a counterweight to your purple marshmallow bunnies and roses view of things. 

They are delicious...

[MaroonBells]

And I'm really sorry to have keep busting the myth that low talent Tai Felton is some  sort of replacement for Addison.  He doesn't have that kind of talent.  He's a wasted third round pick.

So the 102nd pick in last year’s draft doesn’t have the talent of one taken 23rd? Insightful. Nobody has a clue yet what we have in Tai Felton and it’s pretty silly for anyone to pretend he does.

[comet52]

So the 102nd pick in last year’s draft doesn’t have the talent of one taken 23rd? Insightful. Nobody has a clue yet what we have in Tai Felton and it’s pretty silly for anyone to pretend he does.

As Jesse Jackson used to say, Keep Hope Alive! 

Jordan Addison had 108 targets as a rookie in 2023.  Great wide receiver talent is easy to get on the field as a rookie, easier than just about any other position imo.   Tai Felton has 2 targets as a rookie...so far .     And for some reason the team needed to trade too much draft capital for grandpa Adam Thielen so they could release him a few weeks later, rather than rely on future Addison replacement Tai Felton to fill in.  

And for whoever was asking, the Tai Felton thread is here https://vikefans.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=20676&highlight=felton 
and the poster who was very high on Tai was Bunsen82.

I recall the beat writers on a pod saying they weren't going to draft him until they verified at the combine that he could return kicks.  Why you need that in round 3 when you have so many other needs, I don't know.

[MaroonBells]

Jordan Addison had 108 targets as a rookie in 2023.  Great wide receiver talent is easy to get on the field as a rookie, easier than just about any other position imo. 

And so it would stand to reason, then, that all of the WRs taken ahead of Tai Felton in the 3rd round would be lighting it up, right? I mean, “great wide receiver talent is easy to get on the field as a rookie.” Especially if they don’t have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and Jalen Nailor ahead of them on their depth charts. Still, Kyle Williams, taken 33 slots ahead of Felton, had 0 starts and 5 catches on the year. Savion Williams, taken 15 spots ahead, had 0 starts and 10 catches.

Jordan Addison came into the league as the de facto WR2. Tai Felton entered camp as WR5, behind Rondale Moore. Given that, an argument can be made that WR was a puzzling choice at that point in the draft. And many of us made that argument. But there’s a big difference between saying that and arguing Felton was a “wasted pick” because he wasn’t able to crack the lineup as a rookie on a team with one of the NFL’s best WR groups…not to mention a team with a young QB who struggles to even get the ball to its WR1. No, your argument is beyond ridiculous.

[comet52]

And so it would stand to reason, then, that all of the WRs taken ahead of Tai Felton in the 3rd round would be lighting it up, right? I mean, “great wide receiver talent is easy to get on the field as a rookie.”

Say what?  I made a statement about Jordan Addison's talent and how it was easy to spot when he started producing as a rookie, not every receiver in a draft.  You are just making up nonsense because you haven't got a serious argument here.

Especially if they don’t have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and Jalen Nailor ahead of them on their depth charts. Still, Kyle Williams, taken 33 slots ahead of Felton, had 0 starts and 5 catches on the year. Savion Williams, taken 15 spots ahead, had 0 starts and 10 catches.

None of this has anything to do with Jordan Addison.  He was drafted high and he has produced.  He could be a #1 on many teams that don't happen to have a Justin Jefferson or equivalent in front of him.  Comparing him to Tai Felton is what's ridiculous, not my arguments.

Jordan Addison came into the league as the de facto WR2. Tai Felton entered camp as WR5, behind Rondale Moore. Given that, an argument can be made that WR was a puzzling choice at that point in the draft. And many of us made that argument. But there’s a big difference between saying that and arguing Felton was a “wasted pick” because he wasn’t able to crack the lineup as a rookie on a team with one of the NFL’s best WR groups…not to mention a team with a young QB who struggles to even get the ball to its WR1. No, your argument is beyond ridiculous.

This is more irrelevance.  Tai Felton couldn't get ahead of Adam Thielen for whom they paid draft capital to produce nothing after burning a 3rd round pick on Felton, saying predraft they wanted him to return kicks, and then discovering that Price was the KR and Felton is basically a punt gunner.

The issue is, is Tai Felton a replacement for Jordan Addison? Because that's what people on this board have claimed up and down for months. 

By virtue and comparison of their rookie production? No way.
By virtue of their draft position and pre-draft analysis?  No way.
By virtue of the notion that old grumps on a message board think Jordan Addison needs to be replaced?  No way.  Because KOC doesn't want that in any world. Guys have done much worse off-field stuff than he has and stuck with teams.  A high-volume pass happy coach isn't giving up that talent unless there is no way to pay for it, and I'm pretty sure the Vikings will find a way to pay.

So you can cook up all the distracting, hand-waving b.s. you like, because my take on who Felton is and what he's likely to be for the Vikings is completely sound.  You can't argue with the logic, the production or anything factual.  Just saying Tai Felton might pan out is great but it isn't an argument; looking at what's actually happened with him, how he compares to Addison in terms of production, and what the Vikings are likely to do is.

[MaroonBells]

Say what?  I made a statement about Jordan Addison's talent and how it was easy to spot when he started producing as a rookie, not every receiver in a draft.  You are just making up nonsense because you haven't got a serious argument here.


None of this has anything to do with Jordan Addison.  He was drafted high and he has produced.  He could be a #1 on many teams that don't happen to have a Justin Jefferson or equivalent in front of him.  Comparing him to Tai Felton is what's ridiculous, not my arguments.


This is more irrelevance.  Tai Felton couldn't get ahead of Adam Thielen for whom they paid draft capital to produce nothing after burning a 3rd round pick on Felton, saying predraft they wanted him to return kicks, and then discovering that Price was the KR and Felton is basically a punt gunner.

The issue is, is Tai Felton a replacement for Jordan Addison? Because that's what people on this board have claimed up and down for months. 

By virtue and comparison of their rookie production? No way.
By virtue of their draft position and pre-draft analysis?  No way.
By virtue of the notion that old grumps on a message board think Jordan Addison needs to be replaced?  No way.  Because KOC doesn't want that in any world. Guys have done much worse off-field stuff than he has and stuck with teams.  A high-volume pass happy coach isn't giving up that talent unless there is no way to pay for it, and I'm pretty sure the Vikings will find a way to pay.

So you can cook up all the distracting, hand-waving b.s. you like, because my take on who Felton is and what he's likely to be for the Vikings is completely sound.  You can't argue with the logic, the production or anything factual.  Just saying Tai Felton might pan out is great but it isn't an argument; looking at what's actually happened with him, how he compares to Addison in terms of production, and what the Vikings are likely to do is.

Nonsense. And the funny thing is, I know you know it is.