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The season long stats on Dallas' defense are deceiving. Since acquiring Quinnen Williams they are good against the run and more middle of the pack against the pass. They were just so bad early that it skews the stats.
Their high level passing attack taking advantage of our weak secondary is likely going to be the difference.
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(12-14-2025, 10:41 AM)comet52 Wrote: The season long stats on Dallas' defense are deceiving. Since acquiring Quinnen Williams they are good against the run and more middle of the pack against the pass. They were just so bad early that it skews the stats.
Their high level passing attack taking advantage of our weak secondary is likely going to be the difference.
This is true. Since QW arrived, their run defense has been much better. As I said before, I don't think the Vikings will be able to run the ball quite as well as they did against the Commies, so JJ is going to have to play well.
Still, this Cowboys team gave up 400 yards and 44 points to the Lions just last week. I also think the Vikings defense has played as well as any defense the last three or four weeks. What's more, with Guyton out, the Cowboys will be starting 7th rounder Nate Thomas at left tackle. Thomas gave up FIVE hurries and EIGHT pressures against the Lions for an illustrious PFF pass blocking grade of 16.3. Fantasy players: bench Jake Ferguson. No way the Cowboys leave Thomas out there alone against Greenard, Gink and Turner.
The Vikings defense is about attacking and penetrating, but they don't tackle particularly well, especially in the secondary. And Javonte Williams is one of the hardest-running RBs I've seen. With the Vikings focused on rushing the passer, Williams could be a nightmare.
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(12-14-2025, 12:06 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: Still, this Cowboys team gave up 400 yards and 44 points to the Lions just last week. Detroit also put up over 500 on the Commies who we managed about 300 against. They are a much more functional offense than the Vikings at this point.
Quote:I also think the Vikings defense has played as well as any defense the last three or four weeks.
Yes the defenders have continued to give a good effort even in games where the offensive side of the ball did nothing. They play hard for Flores, who will probably be gone after this season unfortunately.
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(12-14-2025, 05:05 PM)comet52 Wrote: Yes the defenders have continued to give a good effort even in games where the offensive side of the ball did nothing. They play hard for Flores, who will probably be gone after this season unfortunately.
I don't think effort has a lot to do with it at this level. I think people tend to forget just how much talent is on that side of the ball. On both sides of the ball, actually....with one bright, flashing, neon red exception.
I also don't think Flores is going anywhere. There was an article written a few days ago about how much he loves Minnesota. They also mentioned that among the dozen or so coaches on various hot lists, he's not one of them. The writer speculated that his lawsuit is likely the biggest reason why.
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Curious why JJM and JJ can't seem to find chemistry. I know some is JJM and his growing pains , missing open throws, etc.
Ok, nice easy throw to Nailor for the TD. Is JJM thinking too much when throwing to JJ? Trying too hard to make too perfect a throw? JJ has missed some catches too, so there's that.
I don't know, just spit balling some random thoughts.
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(12-14-2025, 10:59 PM)LabGeek Wrote: Curious why JJM and JJ can't seem to find chemistry. I know some is JJM and his growing pains , missing open throws, etc.
Ok, nice easy throw to Nailor for the TD. Is JJM thinking too much when throwing to JJ? Trying too hard to make too perfect a throw? JJ has missed some catches too, so there's that.
I don't know, just spit balling some random thoughts.
The longer it goes, the bigger it gets. Brain hurdles for the kid .
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Hell of a well fought win after an inauspicious start. JJ made some throws, utilized the TE's, and OConnell for the second game in a row ran a more balanced attack that worked for McCarthy. Defense continues to play tough. The biggest takeaway is McCarthy showed some juice and looks like maybe he is the guy going forward. Excited to see how he finishes out the year
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How sweet was that fake handoff on his walk in TD?
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(Yesterday, 07:51 AM)Watcher Wrote: How sweet was that fake handoff on his walk in TD?
Perfection. KOC said he had to do a double-take to make sure because it was so good, lol.
Done like a QB that is used to being under center and putting his back to the defense on play action. Smooth operator. That's a tough sell for the shotgun/RPO QBs.
4 games separate the NFCN leader and cellar dwellar: Minnesota should have beaten Chicago twice. 2 games separate the Lions and Vikings. And all this with Minnesota playing like ass for a decent portion of the season. This division is up for grabs next year IMO.
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(Yesterday, 07:55 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Perfection. KOC said he had to do a double-take to make sure because it was so good, lol.
Done like a QB that is used to being under center and putting his back to the defense on play action. Smooth operator. That's a tough sell for the shotgun/RPO QBs.
4 games separate the NFCN leader and cellar dwellar: Minnesota should have beaten Chicago twice. 2 games separate the Lions and Vikings. And all this with Minnesota playing like ass for a decent portion of the season. This division is up for grabs next year IMO.
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