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AGRforever · Yesterday, 09:06 AM

We needed a WR. We paid 1 round of drafting in ‘26 and 2 rounds in ‘27

Given Kewsi’s picks….does it really matter? We still get the same number of picks. Those day 3 picks are a gamble at best. Not to mention, we seem to do better on UDFAs anyway.

Waterboy · Yesterday, 09:07 AM

(Yesterday, 08:59 AM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: Just when I thought Kwesi was figuring it out... he overpays for a 35 yr old WR.

I have to agree it's a little bit of an overpay. I thought we could get him for a sixth but we have an incredibly strong three deep receiver corps for a whole season within our Super Bowl window. Maybe he has two years in him?? Also depends on if they picked up some salary.

MaroonBells · Yesterday, 09:08 AM

It's essentially downgrading next year's 5th rounder to a 7th rounder, then in '27 downgrading our 4th rounder to a 5th rounder. Net picks are the same.

comet52 · Yesterday, 09:08 AM

Wow KAM took it in the butt. I thought they'd be smarter.

Waterboy · Yesterday, 09:10 AM

(Yesterday, 09:04 AM)JR44 Wrote: Kwesi got fleeced, no way we should have given up more than a 6th, to include a 4th is ridiculous. Have no confidence in him at all when it comes to drafting or trades.

Their fourth will be a low fourth and we get back a decently high fifth most likely and it occurs in 2027. That's a lot different. lol The fifth next year is more painful when compared to the seventh. This is a slight not huge overpay. We are in our window and have loaded up on draft picks in the next two drafts.

Watcher · Yesterday, 09:11 AM

They're definitely viewing him as wr3 for the next 2 years. Pure speculation, but I wonder if JJM felt he had really good chemistry with Adam this summer and said so.

purplefaithful · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:20 AM by purplefaithful.)

(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: It's essentially downgrading next year's 5th rounder to a 7th rounder, then in '27 downgrading our 4th rounder to a 5th rounder. Net picks are the same.

At first glance, I dont like the comp. Anything more than a 6th and I was going to poo-poo it.

Any comp with 4th rd in it kicks in my reflux.

I could give a Fck about the salary, its chump change in nfl books.

The plus is locker room presence, good target for JJM. Maybe he's got more than 1 year left in him?

IF (big if) we get a couple of good years production for a WR3? I guess i wont care much about my 4th turning into a 5th.

(Yesterday, 09:11 AM)Watcher Wrote: They're definitely viewing him as wr3 for the next 2 years. Pure speculation, but I wonder if JJM felt he had really good chemistry with Adam this summer and said so.

I just posted a similar sentiment regarding this might need to be viewed as a two year thing, not one...

And yah, I suspect JJM and Theilen probably hit it off well working out together this summer - or this trade aint happening.

(Yesterday, 09:10 AM)Waterboy Wrote: Their fourth will be a low fourth and we get back a decently high fifth most likely and it occurs in 2027. That's a lot different. lol The fifth next year is more painful when compared to the seventh. This is a slight not huge overpay. We are in our window and have loaded up on draft picks in the next two drafts.

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Thats an excellent point....There may not be a hella lot separating the 4th from the 5th?

MaroonBells · Yesterday, 09:22 AM

(Yesterday, 09:14 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: At first glance, I dont like the comp. Anything more than a 6th and I was going to poo-poo it.

Any comp with 4th rd in it kicks in my reflux.

I could give a Fck about the salary, its chump change in nfl books.

The plus is locker room presence, good target for JJM. Maybe he's got more than 1 year left in him?

IF (big if) we get a couple of good years production for a WR3? I guess i wont care much about my 4th turning into a 5th.

I just posted a similar sentiment regarding this might need to be viewed as a two year thing, not one...

And yah, I suspect JJM and Theilen probably hit it off well working out together this summer - or this trade aint happening.

The '27 exchange is hard to predict, but the way things stand now, ours is likely a low 4th rounder, and theirs is likely a high 5th rounder. I mean it might just be a 5 to 10 slot downgrade. So that's negligible. Not going to lose sleep over that. The crux of the trade is downgrading next year's 5th for a 7th. Meh....too much for a 35 year old receiver, but the Vikings were pretty desperate here. Our WR2 going into the opener was Tim Freaking Jones until this news hit.

MAD GAINZ · Yesterday, 09:24 AM

(Yesterday, 09:08 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: It's essentially downgrading next year's 5th rounder to a 7th rounder, then in '27 downgrading our 4th rounder to a 5th rounder. Net picks are the same.

What I'm hearing is the 2026 7th and 2027 5th are BOTH conditional. Sounds like it Thielen is active for 6 games or more, we get the 2026 7th but not Carolina's 2027 5th. So if that happens... we get Thielen + 2026 7th for our 2026 5th and 2027 4th. Terrible trade comp, Kwesi blinked hard.

badgervike · Yesterday, 09:26 AM

In terms of draft position, this trade costs us about 15-20 draft slots in 2026. Carolina's pick is likely going to be top 7-8 in the 5th and the Vikings should pick in the bottom 3rd of the 4th. It doesn't say what the conditional part of the 2027 comp is but a 6th and a 7th round pick are basically crapshoots either way. Same number of picks and dropping 15 or 20 draft slots to get Thielen seems like a win to me. He'll certainly solidify the WR room immediately. Now go find us a CB.