Vikings re-sign QB Carson Wentz

[CFIAvike]

Nobody is going to offer that and JJ will remain a Viking. JJ still has starter potential. Wentz is a good signing and QB 1,2, and 3 will be sorted out in training camp.

In one breath you say nobody is offering a 3rd or 4th for JJ, but in the next you say he has starter potential.

Which is it, because both can’t be true?

[MaroonBells]

In one breath you say nobody is offering a 3rd or 4th for JJ, but in the next you say he has starter potential.

Which is it, because both can’t be true?

I assumed he meant we'd get more than that. Because we would. 

QBs trade value is way above every other position, even for busts, which can't really be said about JJ McCarthy at this point. So we're talking about a 23-year-old, former top 10 pick on a rookie deal. That has real value....UNLESS, whatever problem that would drive a trade in the first place is also well-known around the league. I’ve heard rumblings about that. 

Even mega-bust Josh Rosen drew a 2nd and a 5th.

[purplefaithful]

I assumed he meant we'd get more than that. Because we would. 

QBs trade value is way above every other position, even for busts, which can't really be said about JJ McCarthy at this point. So we're talking about a 23-year-old, former top 10 pick on a rookie deal. That has real value....UNLESS, whatever problem that would drive a trade in the first place is also well-known around the league. I’ve heard rumblings about that. 

Even mega-bust Josh Rosen drew a 2nd and a 5th.

The Silverstein piece? 

I dont know if thats what you're referring to or not? 

Working to keep it in perspective, but that article in particular (and its references to the McCarthy whispers at the Combine) gave me some pause. 

Hell, for all I know they were started in GB lol!

[CFIAvike]

I am a firm believer in actions speaking louder than words and every action has been a lack of belief in JJ McCarthy being able to start, stay healthy, lead the team…or whatever.

Kyler is a CLEAR indication they don’t believe in his ability to start, but supposedly this is a “competition”. So that would lend yourself to believing JJ would at least be the back up.

Then you bring in Wentz; who is a perfectly capable #2. It makes no sense to bring that guy in and pay that kind of money to a guy who’s literally going to sit on the bench and be inactive if everything works out right.

I mean if Kyler went down mid season and THEN JJ goes down….at THAT point you reach out to Wentz. Again, realistically if you’re down to #3, your season is over anyhow. The move to sign Wentz now, IMO, is clear indication of your intent to move off JJ.

Maybe internal discussions have been had since the Kyler signing that were not privy to. But what these moves show is a willingness to not let JJ take the field in any capacity in 2026. And I think there’s a better than 50% chance, at this point, that he’s not even on the roster by the time, the draft is concluded.

[MaroonBells]

The Silverstein piece? 

I dont know if thats what you're referring to or not? 

Working to keep it in perspective, but that article in particular (and its references to the McCarthy whispers at the Combine) gave me some pause. 

Hell, for all I know they were started in GB lol!

Don't know who Silverstein is, but I read something a couple weeks ago that suggested executives and personnel people around the league were aware of KOC's fundamental problems with JJ. Who knows what those specific issues are, and who knows if this is even true.

[FourCornersViking]

Assumptions, speculations and predictions...none are facts...

[medaille]

I am a firm believer in actions speaking louder than words and every action has been a lack of belief in JJ McCarthy being able to start, stay healthy, lead the team…or whatever.

Kyler is a CLEAR indication they don’t believe in his ability to start, but supposedly this is a “competition”. So that would lend yourself to believing JJ would at least be the back up.

Then you bring in Wentz; who is a perfectly capable #2. It makes no sense to bring that guy in and pay that kind of money to a guy who’s literally going to sit on the bench and be inactive if everything works out right.

I mean if Kyler went down mid season and THEN JJ goes down….at THAT point you reach out to Wentz. Again, realistically if you’re down to #3, your season is over anyhow. The move to sign Wentz now, IMO, is clear indication of your intent to move off JJ.

Maybe internal discussions have been had since the Kyler signing that were not privy to. But what these moves show is a willingness to not let JJ take the field in any capacity in 2026. And I think there’s a better than 50% chance, at this point, that he’s not even on the roster by the time, the draft is concluded.

How does it make sense that if the season depends on Wentz, that if he was labeled QB2 it was OK, but if he was labeled QB3 the season is over?  He's the same guy?!?

[purplefaithful]

Ben Goessling
@BenGoessling
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Twice, Kevin O’Connell has endured seasons where the #Vikings used at least three starting QBs; both times, the team reacted by building a QB room with three former top-10 picks. They'll have that again in 2026, and while the team hasn't given up on J.J. McCarthy, he'll have to earn anything he gets.

This makes perfect, common sense to me...

He should have to earn it..JJM's 25 performance didnt entitle him to QB1 at the start of 26 w/out a competition.

Wentz's one year deal in 25 with Mn was about $1.42mm. Wonder if MN will pay him more than Murray in 26???

Just another way to view the value equation  and why it would have been insane for MN to pass on the oppty. 

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Don't know who Silverstein is, but I read something a couple weeks ago that suggested executives and personnel people around the league were aware of KOC's fundamental problems with JJ. Who knows what those specific issues are, and who knows if this is even true.

Assumptions, speculations and predictions...none are facts...

Agreed...

Hell, sports is almost like law and politics in the regard.

[CFIAvike]

How does it make sense that if the season depends on Wentz, that if he was labeled QB2 it was OK, but if he was labeled QB3 the season is over?  He's the same guy?!?

What I’m saying is it makes no sense to carry the salary the entire season for Wentz to maybe play as the #3 guy if you needed. It DOES make sense to pay Wentz to be the #2. 

It does NOT make sense to pay Murray, Wentz AND McCarthy all season long. Unless we’re saying that Wentz is a Sean Manion or Nick Mullens level #3….which he is not. 

Nearly every team in the NFL leaves their #3 as a developmental project (ala Brosmer). If people wanna kid themselves into thinking the Vikings just re-signed the guy that they believed in to be the #2 last year and a Starter at one point to just hang out on the sideline and not dress this season and be the back up to the back up…go right ahead. Reality is likely to prove otherwise

[purplefaithful]

It does NOT make sense to pay Murray, Wentz AND McCarthy all season long.

It does if your total outlay for Murray + Wentz is about $3mm.

I'll bet it's close to that # too. 

I am a little surprised they signed Wentz signaling an end to the Brosmer era. I thought for sure that QB room was Murray/JJM/Brosmer

They must have felt jittery about that with Murray/JJM injury histories is all I can think of.