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[purplefaithful]

I already know. PM me if u can't wait to find out. 

OF course we know...I was referring to when the brass makes it official 

And yah, lets hope for Boom!

[StickierBuns]

JaMarcus Russell started 31 games. Hell, Josh Rosen started 24. Joey Harrington started 81!

JJ McCarthy: 10 starts. 6-4 record as a starter. 0.0% way to know what he could or can be yet. How anyone with a straight face can say KOC isn't bailing on developing a young QB is being disingenuous. But it is what it is. Murray comes in with potential and a really REALLY nice one year contract cost. He's 'elevated the QB room'....just needs to elevate the win total and playoff victories and we will all be knee deep in candy and nuts come Christmas time.

[purplefaithful]

JaMarcus Russell started 31 games. Hell, Josh Rosen started 24. Joey Harrington started 81!

JJ McCarthy: 10 starts. 6-4 record as a starter. 0.0% way to know what he could or can be yet. How anyone with a straight face can say KOC isn't bailing on developing a young QB is being disingenuous. But it is what it is. Murray comes in with potential and a really REALLY nice one year contract cost. He's 'elevated the QB room'....just needs to elevate the win total and playoff victories and we will all be knee deep in candy and nuts come Christmas time.

You raise some good points and consistently...

I personally believe JJ can still get developed and will grow this season. As much as playing? Nope

Not to beat a dead horse, but would u have passed on Murray this year under the circumstances?

[StickierBuns]

You raise some good points and consistently...

I personally believe JJ can still get developed and will grow this season. As much as playing? Nope

Not to beat a dead horse, but would u have passed on Murray this year under the circumstances?

If I was committed to developing a young QB and I said famously 'organizations fail QBs', yeah I would have gone a different route. But this is why I keep saying this and some think I'm being 'extreme' but the only thing that makes sense is he's given up on McCarthy. Or KOC's a liar and doesn't have the fortitude, one or the other.
I'm a KOC fan so my hard inclination is that he's given up on McCarthy. Its why I keep saying that. I've also said Murray might rock the shit out of it, I hope he does.

[Canthony]

I think we're all smart enough to know the difference. Sanders threw 7 TDs and 10 INTs. Yes, that's a joke. There have been several like this, especially at QB.

Kyler Murray's first Pro Bowl came after he threw for 4,000 yards, rushed for 800 more, with 37 total TDs and 12 INTs. His second came after 4200 total yards, 29 TDs, 10 INTs and a 100+ passer rating.

Do you have his poster above your bed? If he doesn't win a SB and become a HOFer I will be so disappointed. I don't trust him worth a damn lick when the game is on the line. There are things Murray just doesn't have and you are missing that point.

[MaroonBells]

Do you have his poster above your bed? If he doesn't win a SB and become a HOFer I will be so disappointed. I don't trust him worth a damn lick when the game is on the line. There are things Murray just doesn't have and you are missing that point.

So he has to win a Super Bowl and go to the Hall of Fame before spending zero draft capital and $1.3M becomes worth it in your eyes? Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[Canthony]

So he has to win a Super Bowl and go to the Hall of Fame before spending zero draft capital and $1.3M becomes worth it in your eyes? Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because the way you have talked and rubbed since we signed him is that he is the second coming of Tom Brady. If a random person was reading all this over the last couple weeks that knew little to nothing about the NFL, they would think we just got a HOF QB to lead the Vikings.

[MaroonBells]

Because the way you have talked and rubbed since we signed him is that he is the second coming of Tom Brady. If a random person was reading all this over the last couple weeks that knew little to nothing about the NFL, they would think we just got a HOF QB to lead the Vikings.

No, just a pretty significant upgrade for less money than we're paying Tai Felton. You're the only one talking about Tom Brady and the Hall of Fame. I guess because you think a little hyperbole gives your point more impact. It doesn't.

[medaille]

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If it’s any encouragement to you, 3 of the last 5 QBs to win a Super Bowl were “deadbeats” who were signed after their teams failed to hit on a QB in the draft.

Last 5 SB winning QBs are Stafford, Mahomes, Mahomes, Hurts, Darnold.

Of those I think only Darnold really has a Deadbeat label.  Hurts is a quality QB that won a SB with the team that drafted him mid second round.  Stafford and Mahomes are both high pedigree QBs that were very successful.  Stafford wasn't really cast off his team though, as much as he was there for a billion years and out of respect they allowed him to be traded to a team that didn't suck to finish out his career and the Lions got a haul for him in the trade.

The 5 before that are Brady, Foles, Brady, Mahomes, Brady.  Foles probably counts in that regard as he was a backup but on the team that drafted him.

Of the 10 before, they're all pretty highly regarded QBs who probably are going to be in the HOF, except for Flacco who snuck a win in there as a high draft pick on the team that drafted him.

If you want to compare Stafford who got traded for two firsts, a 3rd, and a starting QB to Murray, who just got cut and who's team is eating a ton of dead cap ... I guess.

[Vikesrock]

JaMarcus Russell started 31 games. Hell, Josh Rosen started 24. Joey Harrington started 81!

JJ McCarthy: 10 starts. 6-4 record as a starter. 0.0% way to know what he could or can be yet. How anyone with a straight face can say KOC isn't bailing on developing a young QB is being disingenuous. But it is what it is. Murray comes in with potential and a really REALLY nice one year contract cost. He's 'elevated the QB room'....just needs to elevate the win total and playoff victories and we will all be knee deep in candy and nuts come Christmas time.

Beyond even all this the absolute worst case scenario for the Vikings now is if Murray plays...ok.  Not great, not terrible.  Maybe they win 12 games and lost a 1st round playoff game, or even pull something out of their ass and make it to the divisional round.  Now, going in to 2027, what the hell do you do for the future?  Give Murray 50 million a year?  You have to make a decision on McCarthy for his 5th year, and what if that is not with much more information then you have right now?  You will have pushed yourself out of the 27 QB draft class.  So guess where you are?  Right where you are today....no where.