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(Yesterday, 01:05 PM)supafreak84 Wrote: Looking forward to the new GM getting here and anybody hired by Mensah being handed their walking papers. Not sure why you'd stick with the status quo (scouts, Grigson, etc) when the results have been what they've been the last four years. The whole situation with the Mensah hiring, handing things over to Brez for just this upcoming draft with no other real front office movement is sooooo Wilf bros.
If I were writing the chx?
I would want the new GM to lead as many org changes/hires as needed once they were hired. But I would leave those decisions/process to them to figure out.
Like I said b4, it's untimely as hell the KAM firing occurred when it did. And beyond my ability to comprehend how they got there.
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(Yesterday, 02:03 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: If I were writing the chx?
I would want the new GM to lead as many org changes/hires as needed once they were hired. But I would leave those decisions/process to them to figure out.
Like I said b4, it's untimely as hell the KAM firing occurred when it did. And beyond my ability to comprehend how they got there.
We don’t really know anything for certain, but some speculation rings true to me. Sure, his first draft was historically bad, but I think the biggest reason KAM was fired when he was...was because post-mordem interviews revealed the finer details involved in the QB decision. KAM was fired 5 days after the world learned the 14-game-winning QB we let leave would be playing in the Super Bowl. I don’t think the timing was a coincidence.
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(Yesterday, 02:40 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: We don’t really know anything for certain, but some speculation rings true to me. Sure, his first draft was historically bad, but I think the biggest reason KAM was fired when he was...was because post-mordem interviews revealed the finer details involved in the QB decision. KAM was fired 5 days after the world learned the 14-game-winning QB we let leave would be playing in the Super Bowl. I don’t think the timing was a coincidence.
Since KAM was terminated towards the end of the combine, it would not surprise me at all that KAM commented on how, (in his mind), he envisioned the draft would go for the Vikings and the organization said "Ah, hell no, you're out of here"...
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(Yesterday, 12:42 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: Was pretty happy with this one....
That checks a lot of boxes off...Moving down a few and still getting Thieneman is big and I like getting the C too.
I just might have tried to grab a DL earlier and a CB maybe later? Hell, maybe 2 DL!
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(Yesterday, 02:40 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: We don’t really know anything for certain, but some speculation rings true to me. Sure, his first draft was historically bad, but I think the biggest reason KAM was fired when he was...was because post-mordem interviews revealed the finer details involved in the QB decision. KAM was fired 5 days after the world learned the 14-game-winning QB we let leave would be playing in the Super Bowl. I don’t think the timing was a coincidence.
It definitely played into it in my mind. Plus, just look at what Daniel Jones was doing in Indy before he blew his Achilles.
We had Darnold, Daniel Jones, and JJ McCarthy in the QB room in 2024 and Kwesi let both veteran options leave against his HC's wishes. He wanted to keep one of these guys to give JJ McCarthy a true season to develop on the field since he didn't get that his rookie year. The fact that Darnold took Seattle to the Super Bowl was just the final nail in his coffin.
It doesn't take a fortune teller to figure out that the most important part of being a GM is finding a legit QB and building a winning roster. Kwesi let not one, but two go that could have been kept for less than market and given his top 10 drafted QB at least one more year of seasoning. He just didn't want to commit to more than one year and it blew up in his face... unfortunately for us fans.
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(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: It definitely played into it in my mind. Plus, just look at what Daniel Jones was doing in Indy before he blew his Achilles.
We had Darnold, Daniel Jones, and JJ McCarthy in the QB room in 2024 and Kwesi let both veteran options leave against his HC's wishes. He wanted to keep one of these guys to give JJ McCarthy a true season to develop on the field since he didn't get that his rookie year. The fact that Darnold took Seattle to the Super Bowl was just the final nail in his coffin.
It doesn't take a fortune teller to figure out that the most important part of being a GM is finding a legit QB and building a winning roster. Kwesi let not one, but two go that could have been kept for less than market and given his top 10 drafted QB at least one more year of seasoning. He just didn't want to commit to more than one year and it blew up in his face... unfortunately for us fans.
Yuppers...
The draft + qb decisions + I think something happened internally, a conflict of sorts...Either with BFlo or someone else.
KOC's taken the high road and not gone public acknowledging he was mandated to roll with a QB not ready.
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(Yesterday, 03:18 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: That checks a lot of boxes off...Moving down a few and still getting Thieneman is big and I like getting the C too.
I just might have tried to grab a DL earlier and a CB maybe later? Hell, maybe 2 DL!
I hate this DL class. I don't think Woods or Banks have value at 18 and 90% of the others are the bigger nose types that don't fit Flores's size profile. I'm at a loss on what to do there. I keep wondering what the plan is. Outside of Redmond, there's Elijah Williams and the two hyphens. Nice depth, but are they starters? Maybe the kissing bandit finds his way to Minnesota.
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(Yesterday, 02:40 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: We don’t really know anything for certain, but some speculation rings true to me. Sure, his first draft was historically bad, but I think the biggest reason KAM was fired when he was...was because post-mordem interviews revealed the finer details involved in the QB decision. KAM was fired 5 days after the world learned the 14-game-winning QB we let leave would be playing in the Super Bowl. I don’t think the timing was a coincidence.
This is probable and it's one of the main problems with ownership in a nutshell. All that was revealed in post mortem interviews should have been common knowledge already prior to the season ending and would have been if you didn't have the tweedle bros napping in Jersey instead of being actively involved in the organization's day to day operations. The decision to move on from Mensah should have been made prior to the season ending and that's how any good ownership group operates. But they are absentee owners who only show up on game day and it's the same reason they were shocked to learn that Zimmer and Spielman hadn't spoken to each other in almost two years. But they never learn as evidenced by history repeating itself. Like I said, give them all the pats on the back you want for having golden shitters in every stadium lavatory, but they are absolutely some of the worst owners in football when it comes to actual football decisions. Clueless..
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(Yesterday, 03:23 PM)MAD GAINZ Wrote: It definitely played into it in my mind. Plus, just look at what Daniel Jones was doing in Indy before he blew his Achilles.
We had Darnold, Daniel Jones, and JJ McCarthy in the QB room in 2024 and Kwesi let both veteran options leave against his HC's wishes. He wanted to keep one of these guys to give JJ McCarthy a true season to develop on the field since he didn't get that his rookie year. The fact that Darnold took Seattle to the Super Bowl was just the final nail in his coffin.
It doesn't take a fortune teller to figure out that the most important part of being a GM is finding a legit QB and building a winning roster. Kwesi let not one, but two go that could have been kept for less than market and given his top 10 drafted QB at least one more year of seasoning. He just didn't want to commit to more than one year and it blew up in his face... unfortunately for us fans.
I think that's right. But I'd bet if you polled Purple Nation on the question below, the vast majority would have made the same decision as KAM: JJ McCarthy on a rookie deal or Sam Darnold for $33M?
If KAM gets another GM job in the future, that is a hard lesson he is going to take with him. You don't **** with the QB position. You don't give up a proven bird in the hand for a sexy one in the bush. No matter the cost. And you listen to your coach.
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(Yesterday, 04:08 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: I think that's right. But I'd bet if you polled Purple Nation on the question below, the vast majority would have made the same decision as KAM: JJ McCarthy on a rookie deal or Sam Darnold for $33M?
If KAM gets another GM job in the future, that is a hard lesson he is going to take with him. You don't **** with the QB position. You don't give up a proven bird in the hand for a sexy one in the bush. No matter the cost. And you listen to your coach.
ONLY because of his last two games here vs Lions/Rams...And the OL was badly outplayed in both. In retrospect, I was totally short-sighted on that too. Comp that to how Seattle surrounded him.
I dont think there is any chance in (you know where) KAM gets another GM job in the NFL.
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