OT: Coronavirus

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I suspect we're all in agreement there was no way this country could stay on lock-down mode forever...

Question was when /where/how to re-open and compliance from the population on how to live safely during a pandemic.  

I always looked @ CA as Best in Class when it came to managing this - at least early on. Now they are looking at locking down again and are openly admitting they opened-up too much/too soon. 

We (the US) had a set of at least 5 metrics that needed to be trending down before re-opening. I wonder how many states that opened (to the degree they did) actually would have met that criteria? Not many I'm guessing.

Then layer on top of that the stupid behavior we see in packing bars, beaches, barbeques etc...And you get what we got in the US today...In the past 2 weeks new COVID-19 cases were at least 915,00 - more than the entire mos of June. This very much traceable to Memorial Day weekend sins. 

I'm looking at the hospitalization trends by state and they are skyrocketing in many areas too - especially bible belt and SW US. 

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Too much too soon and the fear of all or nothing in being proactive.  Just sat in on quarterly meetings, and many interesting comments on supply chain management "lessons", this is going to be brutal short term, but the long term growth "could" be very good if we are agile.      

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So i am running out of DVRd television to watch and really am doing my best to avoid the news and shit,  so I remember hearing years ago that somebody like the show House,  so we started that this week.   The episode we watched last night had him doing a mini rant on the excessive use of antibiotics, and antibacterial products, in the medical community and in our personal lives and it leading to super bugs that are resistant to conventional antibiotic treatments,   with the rampant use of antibacterial and sanitizers, more now than ever before in the history of man, to try and control the spread of covid...are we opening ourselves up to an even greater threat in a year or so?  Are we potentially creating an even more lethal version of covid that wont be slowed by our home/personal sanitizing products?

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@purplefaithful said:

@JimmyinSD said:
just heard that Minny is going all masks outside of private residences starting saturday.

I made that call a week ago...Yay me. 

WI considering it too. 

dont you hate being right sometimes?

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New York (CNN Business) — Fans will be in the stands for this Major League Baseball season, after all — just not real ones.
Fox (FOX) Sports will debut "virtual fans" in its live MLB broadcasts during the shortened 2020 season, the network announced Thursday. Baseball kicks off Thursday night as the Washington Nationals take on the New York Yankees on ESPN. But Fox will air dozens of games this season, and they'll replace empty seats and quiet stadiums with CGI fans and fake crowd noise.The move is the latest effort to bring back fans — and advertisers — to baseball during the Covid-19 pandemic, after the league announced that spectators would not be allowed to attend games in person.These fans, developed by Silver Spoon Animation, will look and move like real people, and can be customized for each game. 
"If it's an 8-1 game, the crowd can be thinned out," Brad Zager, executive producer and executive vice-president for Fox Sports, told Variety in an interview.Empty baseball stadiums have given the preseason an eerie quality. Some stadiums are pumping in crowd noise, while others have cardboard cutouts of fans.

This screen grab from FOX Sports depicts virtual fans that will fill the stands for MLB games

The regular season will have its own challenges. The league announced that each team will play only 60 games this season, compared to the standard 162. Fewer players and personnel will be allowed in dugouts to maintain social distancing.
But, so far, networks have been selling advertising space at an even faster ratethan usual. Fox Sports has sold more than 90% of its ad inventory for the regular season, while a Disney (DIS) ad sales spokesperson previously told CNN that ESPN "sold out of inventory for the opening week and the rest of the regular season."

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@purplefaithful said:

 — Fans will be in the stands for this Major League Baseball season, after all — just not real ones.
Fox (FOX) Sports will debut "virtual fans" in its live MLB broadcasts during the shortened 2020 season, the network announced Thursday. Baseball kicks off Thursday night as the Washington Nationals take on the New York Yankees on ESPN. But Fox will air dozens of games this season, and they'll replace empty seats and quiet stadiums with CGI fans and fake crowd noise.The move is the latest effort to bring back fans — and advertisers — to baseball during the Covid-19 pandemic, after the league announced that spectators would not be allowed to attend games in person.These fans, developed by Silver Spoon Animation, will look and move like real people, and can be customized for each game. 
"If it's an 8-1 game, the crowd can be thinned out," Brad Zager, executive producer and executive vice-president for Fox Sports, told Variety in an interview.Empty baseball stadiums have given the preseason an eerie quality. Some stadiums are pumping in crowd noise, while others have cardboard cutouts of fans.

This screen grab from FOX Sports depicts virtual fans that will fill the stands for MLB games

The regular season will have its own challenges. The league announced that each team will play only 60 games this season, compared to the standard 162. Fewer players and personnel will be allowed in dugouts to maintain social distancing.
But, so far, networks have been selling advertising space at an even faster ratethan usual. Fox Sports has sold more than 90% of its ad inventory for the regular season, while a Disney (DIS) ad sales spokesperson previously told CNN that ESPN "sold out of inventory for the opening week and the rest of the regular season."

I thought they might, and should, do this. Curious to see what this looks like, but with technology the way it is, I wonder if we'll notice much of a difference. 

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@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

 — Fans will be in the stands for this Major League Baseball season, after all — just not real ones.
Fox (FOX) Sports will debut "virtual fans" in its live MLB broadcasts during the shortened 2020 season, the network announced Thursday. Baseball kicks off Thursday night as the Washington Nationals take on the New York Yankees on ESPN. But Fox will air dozens of games this season, and they'll replace empty seats and quiet stadiums with CGI fans and fake crowd noise.The move is the latest effort to bring back fans — and advertisers — to baseball during the Covid-19 pandemic, after the league announced that spectators would not be allowed to attend games in person.These fans, developed by Silver Spoon Animation, will look and move like real people, and can be customized for each game. 
"If it's an 8-1 game, the crowd can be thinned out," Brad Zager, executive producer and executive vice-president for Fox Sports, told Variety in an interview.Empty baseball stadiums have given the preseason an eerie quality. Some stadiums are pumping in crowd noise, while others have cardboard cutouts of fans.

This screen grab from FOX Sports depicts virtual fans that will fill the stands for MLB games

The regular season will have its own challenges. The league announced that each team will play only 60 games this season, compared to the standard 162. Fewer players and personnel will be allowed in dugouts to maintain social distancing.
But, so far, networks have been selling advertising space at an even faster ratethan usual. Fox Sports has sold more than 90% of its ad inventory for the regular season, while a Disney (DIS) ad sales spokesperson previously told CNN that ESPN "sold out of inventory for the opening week and the rest of the regular season."

I thought they might, and should, do this. Curious to see what this looks like, but with technology the way it is, I wonder if we'll notice much of a difference. 

I suspect if this works (i.e. advertising revenue and fans behind their tv's reactions) it will be brought to NFL too. Maybe college ball as well. 

What a world...

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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/07/16/city-plans-child-care-for-100-000-kids-when-schools-partially-reopen-1301436#:~:text=NEW%20YORK%20%E2%80%94%20The%20city%20will,Bill%20de%20Blasio%20said%20Thursday.&text=Private%20landlords%20are%20also%20encouraged,two%20months%20until%20school%20begins.

is it going to be safer in NY City than in Missouri?  of course it will. :p

I think this plan is potentially the best I have heard as long as its done smartly to keep the younger kids in groups with the same supervision, (the pod theory).   it wont really work for more advanced learning like you will see JR and HS where kids are breaking out and taking different levels of learning in all the different areas of study,  but those kids dont need day care if they arent in school.  I think I would look at going to 4 day school with kids in class rooms only 2 days a week (make Wednesdays and Saturdays cleaning days between groups), splitting all the class sizes but having the home kids using distance learning on their days out of the classroom.  they should be able to improve social distancing this way in many locations and the more populated schools can look to add some teachers and classrooms out of non used facilities like gymnasiums and such.  temporary divider walls could be cheap and easy to assemble to create smaller rooms out of the larger rooms to increase classrooms.

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@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

 — Fans will be in the stands for this Major League Baseball season, after all — just not real ones.
Fox (FOX) Sports will debut "virtual fans" in its live MLB broadcasts during the shortened 2020 season, the network announced Thursday. Baseball kicks off Thursday night as the Washington Nationals take on the New York Yankees on ESPN. But Fox will air dozens of games this season, and they'll replace empty seats and quiet stadiums with CGI fans and fake crowd noise.The move is the latest effort to bring back fans — and advertisers — to baseball during the Covid-19 pandemic, after the league announced that spectators would not be allowed to attend games in person.These fans, developed by Silver Spoon Animation, will look and move like real people, and can be customized for each game. 
"If it's an 8-1 game, the crowd can be thinned out," Brad Zager, executive producer and executive vice-president for Fox Sports, told Variety in an interview.Empty baseball stadiums have given the preseason an eerie quality. Some stadiums are pumping in crowd noise, while others have cardboard cutouts of fans.

This screen grab from FOX Sports depicts virtual fans that will fill the stands for MLB games

The regular season will have its own challenges. The league announced that each team will play only 60 games this season, compared to the standard 162. Fewer players and personnel will be allowed in dugouts to maintain social distancing.
But, so far, networks have been selling advertising space at an even faster ratethan usual. Fox Sports has sold more than 90% of its ad inventory for the regular season, while a Disney (DIS) ad sales spokesperson previously told CNN that ESPN "sold out of inventory for the opening week and the rest of the regular season."

I thought they might, and should, do this. Curious to see what this looks like, but with technology the way it is, I wonder if we'll notice much of a difference. 

Sounds like a great idea---imagine purchasing the avatar rights to a particular virtual fan with real time uploadable capabilities.  Maroonbells Virtual fan could be jumping up and down screaming cursing etc. while wearing a major brewery Tshirt   making coin as joe fan for the regular man. 

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