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OT: Coronavirus
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@purplefaithful said:
Florida shattered the national record Sunday for the largest single-day increase in positive coronavirus cases in any state since the beginning of the pandemic, adding more than 15,000 cases as its daily average death toll continued to also rise.
Lots of ocean, lots of tourists from NYC, lots of dumb kids partying like crazy with a Governor who continues to downplay the virus. These 18-25 year olds are asymptomatic and spreading it like wildfire. 
More testing??? I'm sure that's part of it, but there is smoke and fire down in FL unfortunately.

Think about this as well; School isn't that far off, Kindergarten through College. I agree with the Feds that get we got to get kids back. The distance learning was a s hit show according to most parents - and parents need to get back to work too. 

But it sure would have been nice to have the curves flattened and declining - and they wont be in to many states. I'd have some real trepidation sending my 18 year old off to a dorm next mos. Then  again, they are far less vulnerable to having a nasty bout with it. 

And if I was an older teacher? Or a teacher with vulnerable people at home? That would be a damn hard choice to be making.

Sad...
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Why in God's name would anyone think this is a hoax? A month ago, my sister in law who lives in TX ridiculed people who thought this was real. Haven't spoken to her since, but just texted her mom and she confirmed that both she and her husband still think it's a hoax, refuse to wear masks and refuse to put them on their 8 kids. 

https://www.newsweek.com/person-their-30s-dies-after-attending-covid-party-thought-it-was-hoax-health-officials-1517172
It's always kind of weird when people mix politics vs. science when dealing with a pandemic.

I think I have an idea on which is the winner.
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Quote: @StickyBun said:
@purplefaithful said:
Florida shattered the national record Sunday for the largest single-day increase in positive coronavirus cases in any state since the beginning of the pandemic, adding more than 15,000 cases as its daily average death toll continued to also rise.
Lots of ocean, lots of tourists from NYC, lots of dumb kids partying like crazy with a Governor who continues to downplay the virus. These 18-25 year olds are asymptomatic and spreading it like wildfire. 

According to state Department of Health statistics, 15,299 people tested positive, for a total of 269,811 cases, and 45 deaths were recorded.
California had the previous record of daily positive cases — 11,694, set on Wednesday. New York had 11,571 on April 15.
The numbers come at the end of a grim, record-breaking week as Florida reported 514 fatalities — an average of 73 per day. Three weeks ago, the state was averaging 30 deaths per day. Since the pandemic began in March, 4,346 people have died in Florida of COVID-19, the state says.
Testing has doubled over the last month, going from about 25,000 tests per day to almost 50,000, but the percentage of people testing positive has risen even more dramatically. A month ago, fewer than 5% of tests came up positive on a daily average. Over the past week, the daily average exceeded 19%.
About 10.7% of Saturday’s 143,000 tests came up positive, with an average age of 38. “I still think we need to increase our testing a little bit more,” said University of Florida epidemiologist Dr. Cindy Prins, adding that the state and local health departments should ramp up their contact tracing.

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Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@mjollnir_k said:
@Akvike said:
@mjollnir_k said:
Anybody find it extremely disturbing while reporting new cases there is no substance to the report ie with symptoms in or needed hospitalization.  If we treated any other disease the way this one is being treated I know the numbers would be extremely different.  Yes there is a definite line with the vulnerable but in reality are we not suppressing the majority in favor of the minority?  
I guess we should just put our head in the sand and wait for the medical community to completely collapse---
Actually the shut down had the exact opposite effect,  Many lost their jobs and the medical community did not get slammed as expected.  Yes some were stress and had to transfer patients but neither Mercy or Comfort were even used.  And the emergency centers collected dust more then anything.

Yes it had that effect, of course it would, but the question is how long will it last.  And your assertion that the medical system did not get slammed, is a matter of opinion.  As far as employment that's all the talk about a U or V shaped recovery, and we are managing to avert both.  The stock market is doing okay, but the majority of folk affected by job loss are not reflected in those numbers, the investor class is okay.  In other economies social health and welfare are integral, ours is pure profit and wealth accumulation.  You know the old cliche, " the rich get richer and the poor get poorer". 
Tell that to the young gal (with 3 children and left a abusive relationship) and had 2 decent jobs (one in the medical field) evaporate from under her feet.  We are having a benefit for her so she can get back on her feet.

Also it is not my opinion it is a national fact, yes hot spots were stressed but they managed by moving patients...they do that every day when mass casualties or other events happen.
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Florida does have a lot of cases, but the positivity rate is low. And the death rate is extremely low, especially compared to the national average. Keep in mind a TON of people have been tested in FL, probably more than any state. Lots of tests in the pipeline still. Cuomo has a stick up his ass because the Governor of Florida did this same thing to New Yorkers a few months ago, forcing them to quarantine in place upon arrival for 14 days. The hilarious thing is the only people that want back into NYC from FL now are the snowbirds that came down here months ago to get away from the epicenter of the country when NYC had it bad....so he's doing a dog and pony show for the media. And contrary to the media, there are plenty of ICU beds in hospitals in the most populous areas of Florida. 

The one place in Florida that is the worst is Miami. No doubt about that.
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lol...little tit for tat ny vs fl
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3M, MIT team up to develop quicker, cheaper COVID-19 testResults would be seen in minutes, not days, although there could be false negatives.A collaboration between 3M and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology could lead to a faster, cheaper way to detect COVID-19 — one with results measured in minutes rather than days.

In other words, it would likely be a big deal, if it works.
3M announced Tuesday its “antigen” testing effort received “phase 1” approval from a recently created federal effort to accelerate the deployment of COVID-19 testing technology. But 3M still must pass “phase 2” and receive regulatory approval for the test.
“The holy grail of this would be something akin to a home pregnancy test,” said John Banovetz, 3M’s chief technology officer.
That’s not to say 3M’s test would be sold at retailers like a pregnancy test. But people could quickly get COVID test results “at the point of care,” Banovetz said.
3M would use paper as a testing medium, which would change its physical state if the virus were present.
The most common way to detect COVID-19 is through a polymerase chain-reaction (PCR) test. Test samples, usually from nasal swabbing, must be sent to a government-accredited lab, where technicians look for the virus’ genetic material.
Hospitalized patients can get their PCR tests turned around in two to four hours, but even hospitals have limitations, said Sophia Yohe, an associate professor at the U’s Medical School and director of its molecular diagnostics laboratory.
Outside of hospitals, the wait is considerably longer. Four days is “pretty reasonable,” Yohe said, “and less than four days is really good.”
Labs are dealing with tremendous volumes of tests. Yohe said the U’s lab alone is receiving 4,000 to 5,000 COVID specimens a day from clinics and other health care providers.
An antigen test is much more direct than a PCR test: It doesn’t require sending a specimen to a laboratory.
“The thing that makes them so appealing is that they can be run very quickly and in devices that are portable and can be easily set up,” said Emily Volk, a pathologist at the University of Texas-Health in San Antonio and president-elect of the College of American Pathologists.
With the current COVID testing system’s bottlenecks — and a high demand for tests — more companies and researchers are looking at antigen testing.
“There is absolutely a need globally for decentralized [COVID-19] testing, and that is why antigen testing is of such interest right now,” said William Morice, president of Mayo Clinic Laboratories. “But it has an inherent weakness.”
An antigen test, which probes a protein that is part of the virus, is not as sensitive as a PCR test. There’s a higher chance for false negatives with an antigen test.
3M’s quest is to produce “highly accurate” antigen tests for COVID-19, said Cathy Tarnowski, the 3M scientist leading the company’s project. She is working with researchers at MIT’s chemical-engineering department led by professor Hadley Sikes.
Sikes has for years been researching antigen testing for various diseases. 3M is no stranger to the medical device business and can produce testing devices on a large scale like few global manufacturers can.
The company said it could manufacture millions of testing units per day.
The effort is part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health’s Rapid Acceleration of Diagnostics Tech. RADx Tech, as the program is called, is funded by $1.5 billion in federal stimulus money.
The 3M-MIT venture got $500,000 in RadX Tech funding for phase 1, and is eligible for further investment.
3M also is working on approval for the antigen test from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Two other companies have recently gotten FDA approvals for antigen-based COVID-19 tests.
3M said it couldn’t give a timeline for when its antigen test might hit the market. “All I can tell you is as quickly as possible,” Tarnowski said.
https://www.startribune.com/3m-mit-team-up-to-develop-quicker-cheaper-covid-19-test/571757982/

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Quote: @StickyBun said:
Florida does have a lot of cases, but the positivity rate is low. And the death rate is extremely low, especially compared to the national average. Keep in mind a TON of people have been tested in FL, probably more than any state. Lots of tests in the pipeline still. Cuomo has a stick up his ass because the Governor of Florida did this same thing to New Yorkers a few months ago, forcing them to quarantine in place upon arrival for 14 days. The hilarious thing is the only people that want back into NYC from FL now are the snowbirds that came down here months ago to get away from the epicenter of the country when NYC had it bad....so he's doing a dog and pony show for the media. And contrary to the media, there are plenty of ICU beds in hospitals in the most populous areas of Florida. 

The one place in Florida that is the worst is Miami. No doubt about that.

Where are you getting those stat's?  If you look at the weekly numbers, I see Florida at 5th highest .35/100K deaths and 3rd @ 19% /100 K for the past week.Looking at WaPo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...Fstory-ans

Here's  their disclosureData on deaths and cases comes from Post reporting and Johns Hopkins University.
Post-reported data is gathered from state sites and from county and
city sites for certain jurisdictions. Deaths are recorded on the dates
they are announced, not necessarily the dates they occur. All numbers
are provisional and may be revised by the jurisdictions.
The weekly trend uses seasonal
trend decomposition to adjust for daily fluctuations in the reported
case and death numbers. It splits reported numbers into a
day-of-the-week factor and a two-week trend, which we show on the
graphs. This allows us to account for the fact that reported numbers on
the weekend are generally lower than on weekdays.


Perhaps we will need another topic soon
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical...li=BBnb7Kz



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