Kwesi Fired...

[purplefaithful]

And this is the second time in five years tensions and toxic culture within the organization have happened under the Wilf's watch. Someone sell me again on how the Wilf's and their football decisions aren't the problem with this organization.

I dont want to get too far down the rabbit hole, already looking ahead. 

But hiring Zimmer wasn't a mistake in the same vein hiring KAM was...

But hey, fool me once? Shame on you...

[supafreak84]

I dont want to get too far down the rabbit hole, already looking ahead. 

But hiring Zimmer wasn't a mistake in the same vein hiring KAM was...

But hey, fool me once? Shame on you...

Spielman hired Zimmer, but yeah, Spielman was the one good decision they've made in 21 years. The list of people the Wilfs have hired or decisions they've made otherwise is rough...

Childress
Triangle of authority 
Frazier (let me check the tape)
Kwesi
KOC over Harbaugh

...and now this latest debacle of not firing the GM immediately after the season ended, trudging forward with Bryzezinski (who is a finance guy with no scouting background) running an extremely important offseason and draft before we start the search for a new GM. They can wax poetic about their "process" in firing or hiring someone all they want because nobody is buying it. This entire GM situation was bungled about as badly as possible by the Wilf's, but that's par for the course when reflecting on their football decisions.

[purplefaithful]

Spielman hired Zimmer, but yeah, Spielman was the one good decision they've made in 21 years. The list of people the Wilfs have hired or decisions they've made otherwise is rough...

Childress
Triangle of authority 
Frazier (let me check the tape)
Kwesi
KOC over Harbaugh

...and now this latest debacle of not firing the GM immediately after the season ended, trudging forward with Bryzezinski (who is a finance guy with no scouting background) running an extremely important offseason and draft before we start the search for a new GM. They can wax poetic about their "process" in firing or hiring someone all they want becaise nobody is buying it. This entire GM situation was bungled about as badly as possible by the Wilf's, but that's par for the course when reflecting on their football decisions.

You're reaching by putting KOC on the list (yet)

[supafreak84]

You're reaching by putting KOC on the list (yet)

Like I said, the blooms off the rose for me when it comes to O'Connell after this last season. If Kwesi wanted to hire Harbaugh and the Wilfs cut him off at the knees (which has been rumored), it's not a good look for them.

[Vikergirl]

I guess it's like the pendulum swing, they went one way and are now going another until they find some balance

[Greylock]

Spielman hired Zimmer, but yeah, Spielman was the one good decision they've made in 21 years. The list of people the Wilfs have hired or decisions they've made otherwise is rough...

Childress
Triangle of authority 
Frazier (let me check the tape)
Kwesi
KOC over Harbaugh

...and now this latest debacle of not firing the GM immediately after the season ended, trudging forward with Bryzezinski (who is a finance guy with no scouting background) running an extremely important offseason and draft before we start the search for a new GM. They can wax poetic about their "process" in firing or hiring someone all they want because nobody is buying it. This entire GM situation was bungled about as badly as possible by the Wilf's, but that's par for the course when reflecting on their football decisions.

And it looks like we are back to the triangle of authority with KOC, Flores, and Brzezinski.  Who gets the final call related to draft picks?  So far this ownership structure is a cluster fuck, I mean you have 2 1/2 months until the draft, shouldn't ownership have a list or indication on who they would potentially interview for the GM job?  What GM is going to want to come into a situation where the head coach has been given control over player personnel after the draft and free agency has already happened.

[Waterboy]

Spielman hired Zimmer, but yeah, Spielman was the one good decision they've made in 21 years. The list of people the Wilfs have hired or decisions they've made otherwise is rough...

Childress
Triangle of authority 
Frazier (let me check the tape)
Kwesi
KOC over Harbaugh

...and now this latest debacle of not firing the GM immediately after the season ended, trudging forward with Bryzezinski (who is a finance guy with no scouting background) running an extremely important offseason and draft before we start the search for a new GM. They can wax poetic about their "process" in firing or hiring someone all they want because nobody is buying it. This entire GM situation was bungled about as badly as possible by the Wilf's, but that's par for the course when reflecting on their football decisions.

Purple Daily speculated that a big part of the problem is that the Wilf's still are absentee residing in New Jersey primarily and running their other businesses.    I think there is some validity to them being a little clueless about the culture seeing as they're largely not there.  I think they're great owners in some way, but I think they need more presence on site.  At this point, you lean on your long tenured scouts and coaches and see what you can piece together this next draft.  I gotta believe they have Paton in their plans moving forward after next year.

[pattersaur]

Purple Daily speculated that a big part of the problem is that the Wilf's still are absentee residing in New Jersey primarily and running their other businesses.    I think there is some validity to them being a little clueless about the culture seeing as they're largely not there.  I think they're great owners in some way, but I think they need more presence on site.  At this point, you lean on your long tenured scouts and coaches and see what you can piece together this next draft.  I gotta believe they have Paton in their plans moving forward after next year.

Agree with everything regarding the Wilfs and even in their likely interest in Paton... But I hope the Vikings do not hire him.

I really dislike Sean Payton but at the same time, I'm pretty sure he's had a heavy hand on Denver's roster. Hard to say how much of their recent success is attributable to Paton.

[Havoc]

I’m not at all surprised by this. KAM has had poor drafts overall during his term. He’s burned through picks trading around and been taken advantage of by other GM’s. One glaring example that floored me was his trading a No. 11, 129, and 157 for number 10 to take JJM. It was a stupid mistake.

I said back then and still contend today that KOC loved Bo Nix and saw him as a day 1 starter. JJM, who has considerable talent, was always going to need time. A scenario like what Jordan Love or Rodger’s went through was ideal for a guy like JJ. It’s not that JJ can’t be successful, it’s just at a minimum, you had to have an extremely solid backup in place.

Fast forward to more recent, KOC had to know JJ wasn’t ready. The injuries have definitely set back development. Clearly, KOC did not get his way with this. With his winning record, I don’t see KOC being even close to worrying about his job right now.

As for a new GM, I like Reed Burckhardt, the Assistant GM with the Broncos. He started with the Vikings and worked his way up through the scouting department and player personnel for 14 years. He left with George Paton. He’s ready. Not that it particularly matters, but he’s a Minnesota guy as well. I am admittedly biased as his wife is a friend of ours. ?

[comet52]

Spielman hired Zimmer, but yeah, Spielman was the one good decision they've made in 21 years. The list of people the Wilfs have hired or decisions they've made otherwise is rough...

Childress
Triangle of authority 
Frazier (let me check the tape)
Kwesi
KOC over Harbaugh

...and now this latest debacle of not firing the GM immediately after the season ended, trudging forward with Bryzezinski (who is a finance guy with no scouting background) running an extremely important offseason and draft before we start the search for a new GM. They can wax poetic about their "process" in firing or hiring someone all they want because nobody is buying it. This entire GM situation was bungled about as badly as possible by the Wilf's, but that's par for the course when reflecting on their football decisions.

You forgot Fran Foley.

I feel like these guys bought a football team because it would be "fun" but the hard work and effort to really manage it and build a champion is not there.  The hiring process has been bad since day 1, the experiments like TOA and out of box GM hire haven't worked and were maybe questionable to try in the first place.
My hope is maybe when they pass the franchise on to their kids, one of them will have some passion and energy and do what it takes to become a real contender, instead of this "always competitive" mantra we get from Mark Wilf that to me is really just kind of a dismal rinse-repeat at this point.