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Broncos trade for WRer Jaylen Waddle
#11
(Yesterday, 11:28 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: that 4th going the other way makes the 3rd that denver gave up more like a mid 4th rounder,  but still a lot for the guy.  Makes me wonder what we would have gotten for Addison!

Waddle is way more productive than Addison.  Waddle’s fourth best season is about the same as Addison’s best season.  Waddles got 3 1000 yard seasons to Addisons 0, although Addison has shined more in the TD front.  Can’t really argue that it was just due to JJ, because Waddle had Hill.

I’d imagine Addison would probably return an upper half of a second round pick or a lower second + a bonus pick.

You’re not really trading for Addison to be the guy.  At most he’s probably a 1B guy.
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(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)medaille Wrote: Waddle is way more productive than Addison.  Waddle’s fourth best season is about the same as Addison’s best season.  Waddles got 3 1000 yard seasons to Addisons 0, although Addison has shined more in the TD front.  Can’t really argue that it was just due to JJ, because Waddle had Hill.

I’d imagine Addison would probably return an upper half of a second round pick or a lower second + a bonus pick.

You’re not really trading for Addison to be the guy.  At most he’s probably a 1B guy.

Addison has done quite well when he has been forced to be the man though,  sure playing opposite of JJ has its advantages, but how many of JJs targets would have went JAs way if Jets hadnt been 1A?   I think Addison will do fine in a 1A role for somebody if given the chance,  but playing behind Jets is likely hurting JAs stats more than they are helping them.
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(Yesterday, 12:26 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: Addison has done quite well when he has been forced to be the man though,  sure playing opposite of JJ has its advantages, but how many of JJs targets would have went JAs way if Jets hadnt been 1A?   I think Addison will do fine in a 1A role for somebody if given the chance,  but playing behind Jets is likely hurting JAs stats more than they are helping them.

I don't think anyone is trading a first for a guy who just had 600 yards and has never had 1000 yards.

I think you'd rather take your chance in the draft.
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(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)medaille Wrote: Waddle is way more productive than Addison.  Waddle’s fourth best season is about the same as Addison’s best season.  Waddles got 3 1000 yard seasons to Addisons 0, although Addison has shined more in the TD front.  Can’t really argue that it was just due to JJ, because Waddle had Hill.

I’d imagine Addison would probably return an upper half of a second round pick or a lower second + a bonus pick.

You’re not really trading for Addison to be the guy.  At most he’s probably a 1B guy.

The last two seasons Waddle has had 58 and 64 receptions for 744 and 910 yards and 8 total TDs.  Do not think you can fairly count last season for Addison with him missing the first games and then having a QB who could not get back to him, but the two years before that he had 70 and 63 receptions for 875 and 911 yards and 19 total TDs. Do not think there is much of a drop-off between the two.
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(Yesterday, 12:38 PM)medaille Wrote: I don't think anyone is trading a first for a guy who just had 600 yards and has never had 1000 yards.

I think you'd rather take your chance in the draft.

addison is 3 years younger and still on a rookie deal,  if anything is going to prevent a 1 coming back it would be his off field shit,  but performance wise I dont see Addison as a lesser than in this comparison scenario.
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(Yesterday, 01:20 PM)JR44 Wrote: The last two seasons Waddle has had 58 and 64 receptions for 744 and 910 yards and 8 total TDs.  Do not think you can fairly count last season for Addison with him missing the first games and then having a QB who could not get back to him, but the two years before that he had 70 and 63 receptions for 875 and 911 yards and 19 total TDs. Do not think there is much of a drop-off between the two.

Wouldn’t the same be true about Waddle?  His first two years  were 1015 and 1356 yards for 14 TDs and his last two years were with scrambled Tua as a QB.

I think I’ve invested too much time defending Waddle over Addison. Addison isn’t getting traded this year. Doesn’t really matter what his trade value is. KOC needs to prove he can QB whisper. He’s not getting rid of WR2 when we don’t even have a WR3.
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#17
So it boils down as:
Denver: Waddle and #111
Miami: #30, #94, #130

Think of it as Miami getting #30 and #130 and moving #111 up to #94. Payton wants that SB shot with Nix on a rookie deal.
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(Yesterday, 11:58 AM)medaille Wrote: Waddle is way more productive than Addison.  Waddle’s fourth best season is about the same as Addison’s best season.  Waddles got 3 1000 yard seasons to Addisons 0, although Addison has shined more in the TD front.  Can’t really argue that it was just due to JJ, because Waddle had Hill.

I’d imagine Addison would probably return an upper half of a second round pick or a lower second + a bonus pick.

You’re not really trading for Addison to be the guy.  At most he’s probably a 1B guy.

Game per game, both Waddle and Addison are pretty close in production. Check the stats.
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