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Vikesrock · 10 hours ago

I think it's fair to talk about KOC and his ability to Head Coach. I will preface this with I have been a huge KOC fan. After last year, I really thought we had captured fire in a bottle. I mean 14 wins with Sam Darnold? Come on man.

But then this season happened and we all saw a few things. First, Darnold. There were points in the season versus the Rams and 49ers were it looked like Darnold was going to implode like he had at the end of last year. Heck in the first Rams game he did implode. But then the Seachickens changed their approach. Ran the ball more. Less downfield and more close to the LOS. Darnold's confidence built and in the NFC Championship game, he went toe to toe with the probable league MVP. I have to ask myself, is this a brand of coaching that KOC and the Vikings are not capable of? We all watched at the end of the season the total implosion. Sure some say it was the OL. Some say it was Sam, but I say it was the OL, Sam and KOC. KOC's refusal to change his "kick ass" (Brad Childress reference) seems to be as much of a culprit.

Second, McCarthy. Watching him implode, especially early in the season, seemed reminiscent of the Darnold vs. the Rams playoff game. It was just ugly. In-decision, interceptions, wildly in-accurate. Coincidence? I think not. Some could be said about the OL, and some being McCarthy, but I just think some is KOC as well. Maybe he just isn't the QB and Offensive Guru we all thought he was.

Now don't get me wrong, I am still a KOC fan, but my excitement has been tempered quite a bit. I am very skeptical now of the path forward. Removing Kwesi and putting Brzezinski in place seems to signal giving KOC more control. The talk of bringing in a Quarterback to compete with your hand picked franchise QB. We all know that KOC had a large part in the selection of McCarthy.

So I say with skeptism, what is the path forward? Is KOC the guy? Did the Vikings screw up again? Are we going to be running the kick-ass offense again?

PurplePorsche · 9 hours ago

On a scale of 1-10, I have KOC at about a 6.5 right now. There is a lot I like about him and his philosophies. I don't know what to believe about KAM, decision making and dysfunction. I wanted KAM out because his drafting mistakes were obvious and brutal. I really don't care how much input coaches had -- as GM you own the results and they mostly sucked. With KOC, we have seen explosive offenses (at times), two seasons with a heap of wins, an admirable willingness to let Flores run wild with the defense... I believe free agents want to come to Minnesota in no small part because of him. With everything swirling right now, let's not forget that the Vikings have been a gold standard for attractiveness to players, at least according to the NFLPA annual players' surveys (2025: A+; 2024: 2nd in league; 2023: second in league). As a fan, I think you are always going to quibble with coaching decisions, but overall I find KOC to be balanced in his approach. Those are the positives.

Where frustration is building for me with KOC is in a few areas. First, I believe KOC has been too slow to move on from under-performing coaches. The offensive line coach is the most evident. I would also suggest our special teams coach has under-performed. But for Will Reichard, there has not been enough emphasis on making special teams a net positive. Our punt and kick return units have been bottom of the league for several years now. Our punter is wildly inconsistent. Second, I think KOC is too married to his "system" and has not adjusted his approach to fit the talent he has. Quarterback is the obvious example. When Cousins went down and an unprepared Josh Dobbs came in, he was just good enough to win a few games. Once KOC had the bye to prep a game plan that could have been tailored to Dobbs skill set, he instead trotted out the Cousins play book and expected Dobbs to execute it, which he clearly could not do. In 2025, KOC clearly did not modify his "system" to aid his young (and, it turns out, unprepared) QB. We could not or would not run the ball effectively. Third, without knowing the details of who decided what, I do blame KOC for a good chunk of the QB mess we find ourselves in currently. Did KOC endorse JJM? Why did he throw him to the wolves in 2025 after all of the preaching about how teams fail young QBs? If you took KOC at face value in all of his QB pronouncements, you would see that we were in the perfect spot to do what GB did with Rodgers and Love -- keep JJM on the bench for a few years and let him develop. But he did not. Again, maybe he is largely blameless in the whole debacle that was Darnold/Jones/Howell/Wentz/Brosmer, but he cannot escape blame altogether.

So, still hopeful, kinda concerned and not ready to pull the plug on KOC.

__PRESENT

purplefaithful · 9 hours ago

I was primarily disappointed in two things:

1). Needs to be better at running the football (situationally, frequency etc.)
2). Took too long to simplify/tailor the offense for JJM

I think he's very bright/smart, high character, can draw-up beautiful pass plays and Ive seen QB's and wide receivers blossom under his hand. He's put up a gaudy won/loss %, now he needs to win in the post-season.

greediron · 9 hours ago

(9 hours ago)purplefaithful Wrote: I was primarily disappointed in two things:

1). Needs to be better at running the football (situationally, frequency etc.)
2). Took too long to simplify/tailor the offense for JJM

I think he's very bright/smart, high character, can draw-up beautiful pass plays and Ive seen QB's and wide receivers blossom under his hand. He's put up a gaudy won/loss %, now he needs to win in the post-season.

I will add, 3). adjusting his offense, both in game and in season. He sticks to the deep throws when the defense is tasting blood and coming after the QB. If he could fix 1 and 3, I think he would be a great coach.

JR44 · 3 hours ago

He went 13-4 with a healthy Cousins and 14-3 with Darnold, I am not as concerned with his ability to coach as I am with his ability to evaluate QB talent. There are a lot of conflicting rumors on who wanted to keep Darnold, who wanted JJM, who wanted JJM in the draft over Nix. I am not sure we will ever know the truth of any of that. I would think that being a former QB and QB coach that he would have had the main say unless Kwesi overruled and made the final call.

Without a true GM, I believe he will be the one making the call on any final QB move. We will definitely find out what he really thinks of JJM. I think the Vikes made a bold move for a starter. There is a lot of smoke with Burrows, I do not see Cincy trading him, but just that the rumor is circling among multiple sources makes me think the Vikes are not looking for a backup or someone to come in and compete.

Mattyman · 59 minutes ago

This seems a like triangle of authority part Deux.