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  Was this the Packers version of Herschel Walker trade?
Posted by: Montana Tom - 08-30-2025, 08:39 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (11)

I had this observation yesterday on a thread...Michael Rand of the Strib must have been reading my mind.  This morning's column (with sarcastic wit and all}...
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RandBall: Did the Packers just make their version of the Herschel Walker trade?
Green Bay traded a lot to get pass rusher Micah Parsons from Dallas. Was it too much? Michael Rand looks at the deal in today’s 10 things to know.

My most active group chat contains six people, all of whom have gone on many versions of a yearly road trip to see baseball games and other sporting events.

The crew leans heavily toward Minnesota sports, but one of the six is a Wisconsin native and therefore a Packers fan. We try to be supportive of his life choices and understand that sometimes you are just born into circumstances beyond your control.

In the chat Thursday, not long after it was announced that the Packers had made a big swing and traded for Cowboys pass rusher Micah Parsons, he perhaps got out in front of any heat coming his way by writing, “If Micah Parsons loses his shoe while running a recovered fumble back for a touchdown in his first game, I’m going to be worried.”

It was perfect, of course, in that it required the knowledge that Herschel Walker, in his first game after a blockbuster trade from the Cowboys to the Vikings in 1989 (against my friend’s beloved Packers, no less), scampered 47 yards on a play in which he lost his shoe.

That game unfortunately turned out to be the high water mark in the Walker era with the Vikings. The trade that sent a million players and draft picks to Dallas, laying the foundation for three Super Bowl wins for the Cowboys in the 1990s, is now considered one of the most lopsided in history.

Did Green Bay just make its version of the Walker trade, dealing two first-round picks and game-wrecking run-stuffer Kenny Clark to Dallas while giving Parsons the biggest non-QB contract in history?

The short answer to the Walker trade question is probably not, though Packers fans are probably not soothed by Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones invoking the Walker trade in talking about the Parsons deal.

  • The Vikings traded three first-round picks and three second-round picks to get Walker (among other things), which is still painful to type.
  • This isn’t that. But ... my first reaction upon seeing the trade was that the Packers gave up a ton to get Parsons. Clark leaves a ton of dead money on the Packers’ cap, has tormented the Vikings for years and should still be a productive player at age 29. The Packers now don’t have a first-round pick until 2028. And Parsons’ $188 million deal over four years ($136 million guaranteed) is massive.
  • It’s somewhere between the Walker trade and what the Vikings gave up to get Jared Allen in 2008 from Kansas City (three draft picks, including a first-rounder, and a big new contract for Allen).
  • Allen is a Hall of Famer. He almost helped the Vikings reach the Super Bowl after the 2009 season. I don’t know if it’s Super Bowl or bust to judge success with the Parsons trade. But the Walker trade tells us we will know more easily if it was a failure.

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  #1 Texas at #2 Ohio State
Posted by: StickierBuns - 08-30-2025, 05:49 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (22)

Big Noon game on FOX. Get to see Arch Manning in a huge game on the road.

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  Jabrill Peppers released
Posted by: MaroonBells - 08-29-2025, 12:46 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (5)

Former 1st rounder, 29 years old, missed several games last year due to injury, but really high PFF grades the last couple seasons in New England. 

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  Why Wilf's culture trumps Jerruh's
Posted by: Montana Tom - 08-29-2025, 12:26 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (10)

Do not underestimate the value of the culture the Vikings have built under the Wilf's as an attractive player destination.  Here is how NOT to do it, courtesy of Jerry Jones and his Cowboys:
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Beyond the question of whether history will look kindly or poorly upon the Micah Parsons trade, the manner in which Cowboys owner Jerry Jones handled Parsons and his agent, David Mulugheta, could leave a mark.

Here’s an unsolicited text that arrived from a long-time agent during Friday’s edition of PFT Live:

“You have no idea how damaging this episode is for the Cowboys as it relates to the entire agent community. We all talk and nobody would ever willingly steer their clients to that team. Make no mistake, they’ve never been a honest or good organization, but since [Jerry] so brazenly disrespected and went behind the back of a top player’s top agent, they are in serious trouble moving forward. This is really one of those ‘time to take the car keys away’ moments.”

Ultimately, money goes a long way toward getting players and agents to do business with a team. But that could require the Cowboys to overpay to get the guys they want. No team should want to have to do that.

Ideally, a team becomes the obvious choice when the dollars are equal. Even better, a team wants to be the preferred destination, even if other teams are offering more.

Jerry’s insistence that agents are simply bystanders and not equal partners will not endear him to other agents. He has displayed — for months — a fundamental lack of respect for agent David Mulugheta. And, yes, other agents have noticed.

Meanwhile, who ultimately won? Mulugheta took the high road by never taking Jerry’s bait. Mulugheta had a strategy. He implemented it. And he got Parsons a contract with a new-money average of $47 million per year. And he got Parsons the new team that, as a result of the chronic disrespect Jerry displayed, Parsons decided he wanted.

That won’t prompt the Cowboys to admit a mistake. They’ll claim they won, even if Parsons propels the Packers to a Super Bowl win and if the Cowboys keep watching NFC Championship games from home.

Look at it this way. The Cowboys rushed to throw a “this is fine” press conference last night in order to persuade media, and fans, that they got what they wanted and that they’ll be better for it.

Did the Packers feel compelled to convene the media and make the case for why they did what they did? No. They’re content to let the results speak for themselves.

As they likely will.

This is something that will unfold in apparent fashion based on how the Cowboys and Packers fare in the coming seasons. As it relates to free agency in 2026 and beyond, we’ll see if the Cowboys win the jump balls when competing with other teams.

Or if they’ll have to splash the pot a little more aggressively than others in order to convince players and agents to subject themselves to the same kind of disrespect that was displayed to one of the best players in the entire league.

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  The Athletic: Vikings make big bet
Posted by: StickierBuns - 08-29-2025, 08:47 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (21)

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6582544...on-murphy/

"The Vikings are making a big bet.....On their pass rush. On their coaching. On their safety play.

They only have four CBs on the roster. Only one is proven. It’s a calculated approach that could shape the season"

And....how is Harry going to be ready for Game 1? Hasn't practiced in 2 1/2 weeks:

Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
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From yesterday: Harrison Smith's availability for Week 1 in Chicago is uncertain as he recovers from a personal health issue. He is expected to make a full recovery, but just a matter of when. He hasn't practiced since Aug. 11.

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  Sincerest form of flattery...Bills "Cold Front" Uni's.
Posted by: Vanguard83 - 08-28-2025, 10:43 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (12)

Anyone catch the Bills "Cold Front" Uni's?

Don't bother looking for yourself - It's our "Winter Warrior" with a dumb-ass buffalo on the helmet

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  Prayers for one of our own brothers
Posted by: Montana Tom - 08-28-2025, 04:42 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (18)

Not sure how to broach this subject, but one of our long time brothers on this forum (took him a while to get on this new forum, but he's been reasonably active this spring/summer), is having surgery this afternoon.  He just texted me with the news...he's in pre-op.  

He would probably be pissed if I disclosed his name or the specific cancer he is being operated on that they are trying to remove.  So I best not say anything publicly.
I'll just say that he's a long-time brother, and has developed personal friendships offline with many over the years.

Sorry, I'm a bit unsettled by this news, but I know how important this Vikings passion is to him.  

None of these "thoughts and prayers" stuff for our brother...just prayers, please.

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  Parsons traded to the Pack...
Posted by: supafreak84 - 08-28-2025, 04:10 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (64)

Damn it

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  Vikings #1 lol
Posted by: Still Hurtn - 08-28-2025, 02:24 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (4)

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  Fuuudge....this guy is going to go to Detroit or GB, isn't he?
Posted by: StickierBuns - 08-28-2025, 01:59 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (10)

Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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Developing: The #Cowboys, for the first time, appear willing to listen to trade offers for Micah Parsons — and several teams have reached out, per
@AdamSchefter No trade is imminent as of right now, but Dallas wants this figured out before next week.


This guy is a monster.

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